Blackmoor wrote:It does not need help, it needs a re-start.
wavemotion wrote:I'll put you down for a maybe!--Dave Bernazzanimeeplemaster@gmail.com
Blackmoor wrote:LOL great sense of humor
wavemotion wrote:Hello All,My name is Dave Bernazzani and I'm one of the many volunteers (unpaid hobbyists as most of us are) over on the RPG Geek (rpg.geekdo.com) - an online community and database for tabletop Role-Playing Games. We opened the doors back in late July and have recently become the largest public online database of role-playing games (roughly 14,500 RPG items spread across 2300 RPGs). Our data model is hierarchical and follows a format of:[family] [rpg] [item1] [item2] [version1] [item3] [version1] [version2]Each ‘Geek user's collection can be tracked down to the version level (i.e. US First Printing, US Second Printing, UK First Printing, PDF Version, etc). Graphically, you can see this data layout in our data entry guide: http://rpg.geekdo.com/wiki/page/Guide_to_Data_EntryWe've been fortunate in that for many of the RPGs, we've had publishers or the actual designers come and fill in the information. In other cases, people who have spent much of their adult lives collecting and playing the games have stepped up to enter their collections (some of our largest collectors are well over 2000 RPG books). Some rare items have recently surfaced (as an example, with collaborative help from Steve Jackson and two collectors, we managed to get a copy of Space Gamer Issue #1 - the information along with a cover shot is now in the database).We are trying to get each of the major RPG lines well fleshed out. That's where the Acaeum members can help - specifically as experts in pre 1990 Dungeons and Dragons materials. We currently have two users with a sizable collection but we need a team of experts to help us flesh the early D&D lines out properly. I'm asking here for help in this project which will begin in earnest sometime early January, 2010. If you are a collector and have sizable material and knowledge available, we would love to enlist that help! We obviously cannot use any contribution (text or scans) that are now the property of the Acaeum (even if you originally contributed that material).The obvious question many of you are facing now is... why help build the content of another site? The answer - we are not looking for the RPG Geek to take the place of the Acaeum (we refer people here as the go-to place for the material you guys cover so well). We are attempting to catalog the entire history of role-playing games in a single hierarchical database which people can track their collections, use the database to manage trades and sales. We are asking for help from the experts to make this a reality. Once the AD&D 1e and earlier material are solid, changes from the user base will be under tight admin control (so as not to rapidly undo the work put into the project).You can contact me through the Acaeum or via my email address at meeplemaster@gmail.comThanks... peace and have a great holiday season!--Dave Bernazzanimeeplemaster@gmail.com
JasonZavoda wrote:Create a board to supervise the construction of your site. Review all entries before posting them. Go for quality rather than quantity. Then RPGgeek might begin a slower but far more accurate and useful archive of game information.
14,500 entries tells me there has been no review, it fails to empress and instead makes me cringe at the thought of the kind of misinformation being catalogued.
Guiding PrinciplesThe RPG Geek was created with and continues to be guided with these three principles in mind. They may not have always been articulated as succinctly as they are here, but trust me, these are our guiding ideals: 1. Do things right. 2. Do the right things. 3. To each, their own.The first principle means that we try not to take shortcuts. We built a data model that would handle the complexities of role-playing games, various editions, crossover products, name changes and multiple printings. We have worked hard to produce a model that works and rewards useful content but it means that people entering data and the moderators must understand the Guide_To_Data_Entry and be diligent about the rules to ensure the data is both accurate and consistent.The second principle means that we are trying to do right by those who hold the copyright on their products. We are being strict on what we allow in terms of images and our rules are designed to protect the intellectual property of the creators and publishers who have worked to bring us these great products. Do not tread on the rights of the creator or publisher.The third principle means that you are entitled to your own point of view. You can love one game and dislike another. Praise one publisher and condemn another. But you may not do so at the expense of another user. Respect the opinions of others - do not belittle anyone for their choice of game or views. In short, do not step on your fellow RPG geeks.
wavemotion wrote: JasonZavoda wrote: Create a board to supervise the construction of your site. Review all entries before posting them. Go for quality rather than quantity. Then RPGgeek might begin a slower but far more accurate and useful archive of game information. We have setup an RPG Geek Consortium currently comprising of 35 people from various walks of life. RPG Publishers (including Fantasy Flight Games), RPG Authors and Designers (both larger and independent covering a wide variety of games and systems), three RPG editors and production staffers, at least one (Eric Aldrich) but I think two Acaeum contributors (at least they are thanked on the credits page here), collectors (two of which have amassed more than 2000 RPG items each), two librarians who have helped lay down our official rules for cataloging books, role-playing game players from no fewer than 6 countries and the volunteer RPG Geek admin crew. It is this group that makes decisions for categorization and classification of the material as well as contacting the various designers, authors, editors and publishers for clarifications where needed. If there is someone here willing to help with the pre-1990 material, I'd be happy to include them in the consortium. As a volunteer crew, we've put in many thousands of hours to review the material in our database. I've personally put in close to 600 hours now since the start of 2009 (when the design goals and use cases were being hammered out). Quote: 14,500 entries tells me there has been no review, it fails to empress and instead makes me cringe at the thought of the kind of misinformation being catalogued. As with everything, we continue to do our best. We are working hard with the designers and producers to double check the information. We've gotten a huge hand from Steve Jackson who has given permission for information and images to be used for their entire stock of PDF related RPG products. Steve Long has sent a crew over to double check all the Hero related material - from the earliest editions to the current Sixth. I realize that with such a massive undertaking that we will not be perfect. We continue to strive every day to improve, enhance and update the content. Sometimes it's nice to have ongoing goals I'll go on to further state that in addition to our design goals (which you can read for yourself at the link I've posted above), we have three guiding principles that govern our day to day activities. We publish these in our User's Guide. These principles are: Quote: Guiding Principles The RPG Geek was created with and continues to be guided with these three principles in mind. They may not have always been articulated as succinctly as they are here, but trust me, these are our guiding ideals: 1. Do things right. 2. Do the right things. 3. To each, their own. The first principle means that we try not to take shortcuts. We built a data model that would handle the complexities of role-playing games, various editions, crossover products, name changes and multiple printings. We have worked hard to produce a model that works and rewards useful content but it means that people entering data and the moderators must understand the Guide_To_Data_Entry and be diligent about the rules to ensure the data is both accurate and consistent. The second principle means that we are trying to do right by those who hold the copyright on their products. We are being strict on what we allow in terms of images and our rules are designed to protect the intellectual property of the creators and publishers who have worked to bring us these great products. Do not tread on the rights of the creator or publisher. The third principle means that you are entitled to your own point of view. You can love one game and dislike another. Praise one publisher and condemn another. But you may not do so at the expense of another user. Respect the opinions of others - do not belittle anyone for their choice of game or views. In short, do not step on your fellow RPG geeks. We may not get there every day... nor with every data entry, user or contribution. But we continue to strive and would love help from well meaning people here. We may not get there every day... nor with every data entry, user or contribution. But we continue to strive and would love help from well meaning people here.--Dave Bernazzanimeeplemaster@gmail.com
lawrenson wrote:Hi,apologies for the cynicism, but you sound like every salesman I have ever heard.
We hope that the RPG Geek will be a fantastic gathering place for the active role-playing community. We welcome collectors, players and anyone interested in the hobby of role-playing games at any level.
