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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:32 am 
 

Does anyone know where the thread with the collectors photos with the TSR, Inc. trade sign are?  I am pretty sure I saw it in the last few weeks here?  Thanks for any links or assistance.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:51 am 
 

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** expired/removed eBay auction **
 TSR, INC Sign Hey all.  I thought I saw this TSR sign hanging over a fairly well known collection.  I hit the buy it now immediately, and excitedly sent the seller an email asking him to confirm the provenance.  I actually expected him to say, I am so and so on Acaeum... and you did see it hanging over I/our collection, but I decided to sell it (for whatever reason).  So far, he has indicated that he is not a member of Acaeum and that he bought this four years ago on ebay, but doesn't remember anything except the seller was in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.  Does anyone remember this item selling and/or have information about it? I think it's the real deal, but am a little spooked by the responses.  Thanks for any assistance.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:11 am 
 

Hmm,  it dawned on me... and research appears to confirm that TSR, Inc. was not used until 1983... so this sign was not there... "WHEN IT ALL STARTED!" I am also a bit concerned that there is conspicuous weathering to the paint that appears to go under the TSR, Inc. letters.  This would seem to indicate that the letters are not as old as the sign/paint.

If anyone has additional observations, etc., please chime in.  I certainly intend to pay for this thing if it is genuine.  But.... if it ain't...  which I am suspecting... then perhaps my quick trigger and posting will save someone else here some money/hastle.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:48 am 
 

Here's the link to the sign from the other thread:

viewtopic.php?t=2657

IO hasn't been around here for a while and last time he seemed to be auctioning off a bunch of stuff - did anyone win anything?  I place a couple bids but never heard back from him.  He is also from Florida so the seller is at least in the right state.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:49 am 
 

There is a closeup of the sign here:

viewtopic.php?p=45251

It looks to be the exact same sign as this one.  Maybe Mike will pop over and let us know what is going on?

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:16 pm 
 

Mars wrote:There is a closeup of the sign here:

viewtopic.php?p=45251

It looks to be the exact same sign as this one.  Maybe Mike will pop over and let us know what is going on?


Is the original invicibleoverlord the person on Ebay selling all those items off now as "hdragonsna"?

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:47 pm 
 

misterspock wrote:
Is the original invicibleoverlord the person on Ebay selling all those items off now as "hdragonsna"?


The sign was auctioned by laserguy213, who according to the listing bought it for $1000.  Both laserguy and hdragonsna are in FL, as is invincibleoverlord (at least as of his last update here).

Definitely a cool sign if legitimate.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:51 pm 
 

Its quite possible but I'm not sure why he would use one Ebay ID to sell the sign and another for the rest.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:54 pm 
 

Mars wrote:Its quite possible but I'm not sure why he would use one Ebay ID to sell the sign and another for the rest.


I was thinking maybe he sold the sign to somebody local, who is in turn auctioning it off.

Edit:  Though if he told Pipswich that he got it from Lake Geneva, that blows up that theory.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:08 pm 
 

It would be good to hear from Mike - I'm sure there are a lot of curious people who would like to know that he is okay, etc.  Its been a year since he logged in and looks like even longer over on the Dwarven Forge boards.

Although I did find a few displays he did up:

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... php?id=850

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... php?id=925

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... php?id=884

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... php?id=871

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... hp?id=1048

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... hp?id=1056

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... hp?id=1487

These are just a few.  You can look at a bunch more by looking at his posts:

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforu ... =915543090

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:17 pm 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:I was thinking maybe he sold the sign to somebody local, who is in turn auctioning it off.

Edit:  Though if he told Pipswich that he got it from Lake Geneva, that blows up that theory.


I was actually thinking the opposite and that he might have sold off a large chunk of extra stuff to someone local or made an arrangement to resell for him.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:48 pm 
 

it does seem rather strange that IO hasn't been on numerous boards for a while and that some of the items in previous threads are now being sold...
Such a shame, as I have only just seen today what an incredible collection and setup within the guys house that he had...

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:50 pm 
 

Mars wrote:There is a closeup of the sign here:

viewtopic.php?p=45251

It looks to be the exact same sign as this one.  Maybe Mike will pop over and let us know what is going on?


I can't tell you how many times it crossed my mind on how to get the old TSR sign down off the posts every time I was heading to Gary's house while driving on HWY 120 just outside of town on Thursday nights. It would have been just too obvious climbing up there and taking it off! Alas, the signs are long gone now. They took them down a couple of years ago.  :(


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:09 pm 
 

I had thought that at least 2 of these signs existed.. one in IO and another that was broken? hmm.. don't recally, but sure there was another...??

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:57 pm 
 

I am not getting reasonable answers from the guy and a very fierce push to pay up or shut up from him.  His user id contact info says first name is ZANE.  That is not the name of any of the three people who are identified in IO's thread as owners of the collection where this sign appeared to be in 2005.  Worse, this guy clearly didn't buy the sign on ebay in 2005 from Lake Geneva if it was in Florida with IO.  Although, I don't intend to accuse the guy of anything, I am starting to question his right to sell it.  If no one has heard form IO in a year, this may be an estate fiasco.  I will likely take a buy on it, as his description is incorrect, the lettering appears added after the fact, and he will not clarify how he got the sign.  

He insists other people want to buy it.  Buyer beware here, no doubt.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:58 pm 
 

Does anyone know how IO got the sign?  As a secondary concern to whether or not it is owned by the seller....  is it really a TSR sign, and what's the deal with the lettering on top of the paint loss?


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:07 pm 
 

This is my response to his last threat that I either pay up or he would sell it to someone else.

"Dude, you need to calm down and follow ebay policy.  But, to the point.  The collection where this sign was four years ago is well known and your story about where you got it doesn't make sense.  There are three major issues to resolve that ebay will support me on.  First, you do not indicate that you purchased this from the last owner of record.  Is it stolen property?  Second, you misrepresented the date of the sign in your listing.  TSR, Inc. dates to 1983 and this sign was not there when it all started.  Third, the lettering is sitting on top of clear paint loss indicating the letters were applied long after the sign was weathered.  These are legitimate concerns and it is your responsibility to demonstrate that your listing is correct, not mine to trust a stranger with $1000 when they are not forthcoming with straight answers.  I have hit the buy it now perfectly prepared to pay the price for the item you advertised, not for a fake or a stolen sign."


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:23 pm 
 

I believe the sign that IO had is authentic.  I remember someone posted or posted a link to some pictures from back in the day when it was still up.  I do remember there being a second sign as well that was broken but don't remember where it ended up.

I would say that if this Zane guy doesn't know Mike then the whole story sounds a bit off.  The other thing that is suspect is that if IO needed money then I'm pretty sure he would have come here rather than sell them on Ebay.  Not to mention selling the sign with the other books is a really weird thing to do.  If IO was liquidating his thousands of items, this is a very strange way to bundle them.

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