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Post Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:31 pm 
 

It was announced that two new payment services are going to be available starting in February.

The first is Moneybrokers.com. Fees starting at 2.4% + $0.29
www.moneybookers.com/partners/us/ebay

The second is paymate.com from our friends down under. Fees have not been announced yet.
www.paymate.com/eBay

It will be interesting to see how they are once they start operations on eBay.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:11 am 
 

Paymate has been around for years...

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:17 pm 
 

Yes, but they haven't been available here in the states and if they follow the same business model that they use in Australia, it looks like they might be a great substitute for PayPal.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:49 pm 
 

With these rates, does this make them cheaper or more expensive than Paypal?

MONTHLY SALES            PRICE PER TRANSACTION

$0.00 - $3,000.00                 2.9% + $0.29
$3,000.01 - $10,000.0         2.4% + $0.29
$10,000.01 - $100,000.00         2.1% +$0.29
>$100,000.00                         1.9% + $0.29

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:32 pm 
 

Wow, they added some other options. Great.

But did you know they have outlawed personal checks and money orders? I didn't. In fact, I had to beg them not to end all my latest auctions early because I was in violation of the new policy which took place on Jan 15.

To give them some credit, they did let my auctions close on Jan 16.

However, the entire concept that we as sellers can't take any form of payment but the ones ebay gets paid for is shit.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:36 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:But did you know they have outlawed personal checks and money orders? I didn't. In fact, I had to beg them not to end all my latest auctions early because I was in violation of the new policy which took place on Jan 15.

To give them some credit, they did let my auctions close on Jan 16.

However, the entire concept that we as sellers can't take any form of payment but the ones ebay gets paid for is shit.

Sellers can't mention other methods of payment in their auctions.  Buyers can still pay through other methods.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:41 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:Sellers can't mention other methods of payment in their auctions.  Buyers can still pay through other methods.


I'm not sure as a buyer I would want to use any other payment method other than paypal unless I knew the seller.  Paypal at least gives you an option of getting your money back if you file a dispute and the seller cannot prove the package was delivered.

I'm guessing these other options will not have the same policy.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:36 am 
 

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:53 am 
 

Pipswich wrote:No kidding, I wouldn't ship based on a personal check or a money order from a stranger.  They are clearly too easy for people to forge.  Chargebacks from you bank on forged checks can happen weeks later.  It's just not wise.  I don't like ebay's monopoly... but... the western union scams and the check scams compromise all of our ability to do business on ebay.  They have to do something.




It's not that bad.  I've been selling online since 1994, way before Ebay or paypal. Between 1994-1998, I had exactly two bounced checks out of several hundred sales, both for small amounts and (oddly enough) both from military men.  Never had an issue with a money order, including foreign money orders, except for once some guy forgot to convert from Canadian Dollars to US dollars and I deposited the MO, whoops, my bad, got shorted AND charged a conversion fee.   Since Ebay/Paypal, I've never had a bounced check or bad money order. It's really simple...you don't ship until the check or money order clears.  Simple as that. Never had problem one in ten years of Ebay, and now Ebay wants to tell us the switch to Paypal only is for our own protection.  Yeh, thanks guys, I didn't need your protection, but thanks for giving me no choice in the matter.  



To top it off, I had a lot of foreign buyers pay through Western Union. Also never a problem, sometimes for very large amounts. These fears have been overblown over the years by continual nonsense warnings from Ebay/Paypal making you so worried about accepting anything but Paypal that you'll gladly pay their excessive fees for "protection". Sheesh. All a buyer has to do is claim NSAD and he gets back all his money, and you have zero recourse anyway. What kind of "protection" is that?  I'd love to go back to checks and money orders only....



In the good old days, a seller's rep was his lifeline. Screw a buyer, send him crappy material, and the word got around very quickly on the forums and boards dedicated to buying/selling/trading RPGs.   I saw more than one bad seller get hammered completely for sending late or damaged items, to the point where they were chased off the boards and stopped selling RPGS. Several of the early RPG sellers online, like Noble Knight, Dragonstrove, the original Titan Games, the Hit Pointe, and myself, started out that way and flourished by doing the right thing by buyers.  Oh, and EVERYONE spent a lot less, since prices weren't inflated to pay for ebay fees and paypal fees.  



It's really a damn shame.  I'd go back to that sort of business in a second, problem is people have been so brainwashed by Ebay and Paypal's constant campaign to brand anything but their sites as "shady" selling it's hard to change people's minds.



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Post Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:34 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
It's not that bad.  I've been selling online since 1994, way before Ebay or paypal. Between 1994-1998, I had exactly two bounced checks out of several hundred sales, both for small amounts and (oddly enough) both from military men.  Never had an issue with a money order, including foreign money orders, except for once some guy forgot to convert from Canadian Dollars to US dollars and I deposited the MO, whoops, my bad, got shorted AND charged a conversion fee.   Since Ebay/Paypal, I've never had a bounced check or bad money order. It's really simple...you don't ship until the check or money order clears.  Simple as that. Never had problem one in ten years of Ebay, and now Ebay wants to tell us the switch to Paypal only is for our own protection.  Yeh, thanks guys, I didn't need your protection, but thanks for giving me no choice in the matter.  

To top it off, I had a lot of foreign buyers pay through Western Union. Also never a problem, sometimes for very large amounts. These fears have been overblown over the years by continual nonsense warnings from Ebay/Paypal making you so worried about accepting anything but Paypal that you'll gladly pay their excessive fees for "protection". Sheesh. All a buyer has to do is claim NSAD and he gets back all his money, and you have zero recourse anyway. What kind of "protection" is that?  I'd love to go back to checks and money orders only....

In the good old days, a seller's rep was his lifeline. Screw a buyer, send him crappy material, and the word got around very quickly on the forums and boards dedicated to buying/selling/trading RPGs.   I saw more than one bad seller get hammered completely for sending late or damaged items, to the point where they were chased off the boards and stopped selling RPGS. Several of the early RPG sellers online, like Noble Knight, Dragonstrove, the original Titan Games, the Hit Pointe, and myself, started out that way and flourished by doing the right thing by buyers.  Oh, and EVERYONE spent a lot less, since prices weren't inflated to pay for ebay fees and paypal fees.  

It's really a damn shame.  I'd go back to that sort of business in a second, problem is people have been so brainwashed by Ebay and Paypal's constant campaign to brand anything but their sites as "shady" selling it's hard to change people's minds.

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Aww, C'mon Mike.

Ebay cares though.

Don't you remember? They are just doing all of this for your good.

It's in your best interest to listen to them.

Oh and they will take of any problems you may have with bad buyers. You know, just like Scubabri420.

They just haven't gotten to it yet.

While you are waiting, why not have some more Kool-Aid over there on the table.

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