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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:38 pm 
 

I've seen several people here comment on how well somebody pack up a shipment so that the items are protected in transit.

Does anybody have some kind of guide (possibly with pictures) on this ideal way to pack modules, books, and similar stuff?

I'd like to think I'm a pretty good packer. I sold off $800 worth of stuff a few months ago, and I didn't hear a single complaint about damage during shipment or poor protection, but it never hurts to hear from those of you who regularly buy & sell $1000 items :)

  


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:02 am 
 

I wrap the item (eg module) in plastic wrap, or put it in a mylar sleeve if I have one - just in case the entire package gets wet. My mailman will leave packages at the front door which is a guaranteed deluge if it rains hard.

Then I sandwich this between two sheets of stiff cardboard that are slightly larger than the item. Since item is encased in plastic, I usually tape the wrapped item to one of the boards before taping them together.

Then I wrap the cardboard sheets in brown paper (shopping bag) and tape it up. For more expensive items I will place the cardboard sandwich in a larger box with foam peanuts surrounding it.

This process may be too time intensive for constant sellers - I sell only occasionally. 9.5 years on Ebay and my feedback is only 451 and that includes many purchases.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:55 am 
 

Basically assume the package may get wet, so plastic bags wrapped around the item will help protect it.
Assume the package will get banged around, so for thin modules place between stiff cardboard, for other items encase in a smaller box and then package that in a larger box with paper, bubble wrap, peanuts cushioning in between.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:22 am 
 

If you're putting it in a box, don't just tape the flaps that you closed. Assume that the edges or other flaps will give way, and tape them for some support.

(If you're using the cube-ish flat rate box, then there's no assumption needed.  More of those have arrived barely holding together than any others.)

Then again, I do tend to go overboard with my taping, so yeah. ;)


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:56 am 
 

I have never had any complaints about damaged goods on deliver.
I must agree with those above.
Assume that the box will get wet.
Plastic is your first defense.
Sandwich the item between stiff cardboard. A couple of pieces of tape will pinch the edges together to keep the item from sliding out and getting the corners bumped.
If you use a thickly padded envelope or a box tape it up with the assumption that the seams will let go.
Tape is cheap, use lots of it! Make the box hard to open.
If you use a padded envelope, write DO NOT BEND on front and back.
If shipping to another country ask the buyer for a translation of DO NOT BEND.


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:02 am 
 

All of this advice is excellent.  I get almost all my packing materials for free from the grocery store.  Free is good!

I use plastic grocery bags to keep things dry.
I use the paper bags to wrap boxes when needing to shop several items or larger items.
I get boxes from the grocery store both as boxes AND to cut up into 9 x 11(approx) rectangles or when shipping single magazines/modules.

About the only thing I buy are 9 x 11 manila envelopes to ship single magazines/modules.  It's so much easier than using wrapping paper, and it looks more professional.

I have procured bubble wrap from furniture stores, but haven't done that in a while.  I save foam popcorn anytime I get it.

I believe in recycling as much as I can, and it's really not that hard to do. 8)


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:49 am 
 

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:16 pm 
 

I've had a few boxed sets show up cracked or crushed. Most of the time they were poorly packed. the other times it was well packed just not "appropriately" packed.

You have to pack boxed sets to insure against three major problems (besides water damage):

If the outer shipping box is crushed, will it crush the item?
Will the contents of the boxed set (i.e. Dice, books, etc.) harm the item box itself?
Will the item shift around inside your shipping box and damage itself?

I've have books inside the boxed set tear the side of the box open because they are left to move around inside. I've have dice (damn d4s) puncture the box top. I've also had the boxed set slide around so much inside the packing that it made scuff marks all over the cover and sides of the box.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:40 pm 
 

I pretend the box is going to be flipped around, thrown, stepped on, and driven over. I then pack accordingly. Oh, and yes, I assume it will get wet, too.

I don't recall ever hearing I had packaged something badly, but I also don't sell a lot and my fiancée does a lot of the shipping for me.


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Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:45 pm 
 

Those are some pretty good suggestions for shipping in envelopes.  Here's some tips on shipping boxes of stuff.  I'm very anal about packaging but part of that comes from having worked at a UPS shipping facility and seeing how packages are treated.

1.  Always try and use new, sturdy boxes that are sized close to what you are shipping (extra room is not good).  New boxes make you look more professional too.

2.  Waterproof the items prefferably with mylar bags or bubble wrap.

3.  Make sure none of the items move when you shake the box.  I've been known to put bubble wrap inside box sets so they won't rattle.

4.  Keep the package under 15-20 lbs.  For bigger orders use another box.  You can always tape the boxes together to make one package.  I normally use 12x10x3 boxes so 3 of them taped together usually weighs under 20lbs.  Do not make one big heavy box because they tend to get thrown onto the sorting belts.

5.  Finally, pack box sets near the top of a shipping box because they make poor bases and can easily get crushed.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:09 pm 
 

Nothing is damage proof.

However, it is not too difficult to pack something so that it would take some really rough handling to damage the contents.

Many of the above posts explain how to pack stuff, and better than I could, so there is No need for me to elaborate on methods.


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:36 pm 
 

I appreciate the great info.

Living in sunny California means I packaged stuff in plastic only as the whim struck me. (Rain-soaked mail? What's that?!) I've never had a problem with that on my outgoing shipments (thankfully!) but I plan to package everything in plastic now, just to be safe. My future outgoing shipments are sure to benefit.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:53 am 
 

I've never really had a problem with incomming mail either.. most of it was however packaged as stated, in a box almost the same size as the inner box with little in the way of movement potential. Others were packed in larger boxes with foam peanuts. Somehow my inner contents have always been ok... odd aye?
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I do know that pins, dice and any book that isn't more of a pamplet WILL scuff the edges of other things. I have a damaged comic book thing (it's small and about 50 odd pages) from just this, two books in one box far far too big for them which spent their whole trip across the atlantic smashing into eachother.. bah. Good thing those were bought to read not collect aye?

So moral of the story is, ensure inner contents isn't going to shift about and squash iteself, other contents or damage the box as mentioned by someone else. I'd be inclined to use bubble wrap or something actually... much like I would when sending models and sculptures.. which I do occassionally (I'm a laaazy artist though)
Writing DO NOT BEND on things sometimes helps.. depends how idiotic/uncaring the postal staff are. I've had a postie try to shove a reinforced piece of artwork through out tiny letterbox before now by bending it in half and SHOVING! crazy! seriously... I stopped him before he could do any real damage but jesus. It was like "what part of "DO NOT BEND" can you not comprehend? why not simply knock on the bloody door before trying to shove an a4 bit of card through a letterbox that can barely fit a5 through it!"


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:59 am 
 

I'm going to recommend the package I just received from JohnGaunt as an example of good packaging:

It was in a box that was filled with packing peanuts that contained another box, that contained a bag, that contained a cardboard sleeve around the book. :D

(Or was the sleeve around the bag?  I can't recall.)


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:27 pm 
 

g026r wrote:I'm going to recommend the package I just received from JohnGaunt as an example of good packaging:

It was in a box that was filled with packing peanuts that contained another box, that contained a bag, that contained a cardboard sleeve around the book. :D

(Or was the sleeve around the bag?  I can't recall.)

*rofl*  Thanks.  That book had to travel a long way, so I packed it for every eventuality.  :)

For normal modules, I have decided to use a board+bag, plastic bag, cardboard, and an envelope.  For paperbacks, I pack the book between two pieces of stiff cardboard or a use a small box.

The most effective miniatures packaging that I have received was foam rubber in a box.  Slots were cut out of the foam rubber, and bagged and carded minis were inserted.  Lightweight, shock-absorbing, foolproof.  Unfortunately, most people seem content to ship minis in a frickin' padded envelope, which means the blisters get crushed.  :(

  

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:48 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:Unfortunately, most people seem content to ship minis in a frickin' padded envelope, which means the blisters get crushed.  :(


I hope you haven't had any troubles with me and my bubble envelopes.  :oops:  I always put lots of styrofoam popcorn in with the blisters to limit crushing.  I have never had any complaints about my system even though I have shipped hundreds of minis in blisters(maybe thousands).  Of course, if I am shipping orders with more than three blisters, I put them in a box, but for one or two blisters, the bubble envelope with popcorn appears to work fine.  Or am I mistaken?  Help appreciated. :)


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:13 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:I hope you haven't had any troubles with me and my bubble envelopes.  :oops:  I always put lots of styrofoam popcorn in with the blisters to limit crushing.  I have never had any complaints about my system even though I have shipped hundreds of minis in blisters(maybe thousands).  Of course, if I am shipping orders with more than three blisters, I put them in a box, but for one or two blisters, the bubble envelope with popcorn appears to work fine.  Or am I mistaken?  Help appreciated. :)

My comment was not directed at you or any Acaeum or DF member.  I don't recall having a problem with any of your items; IIRC, they were always boxed due to quantity.

I have never had a good minis+envelope experience.  All it takes is one good crushing, and the blisters get permanently mashed or split/broken.

People who use plain-paper or padded envelopes generally do not use popcorn, so the popcorn might help.  If no one has complained, then it works for you.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:22 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:My comment was not directed at you or any Acaeum or DF member.  I don't recall having a problem with any of your items; IIRC, they were always boxed due to quantity.

I have never had a good minis+envelope experience.  All it takes is one good crushing, and the blisters get permanently mashed or split/broken.

People who use plain-paper or padded envelopes generally do not use popcorn, so the popcorn might help.  If no one has complained, then it works for you.


Whew!  :)   I think part of the reason why it is usually not a problem is that many of my blisters have obvious damage to begin with.  So what's a crinkle on top of a crease?  A bend next to a tear?  I agree, as long as no one complains, I must be doing something right.  It could be effectively argued however that all my blister shipments were before the eBay feedback system changed.  NOW, I 'll really see how good/bad my shipping is. :?


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