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Poll: Should we keep the Auction History section?
Nope, it's no longer useful
68%
[ 28 ]
I love it, please keep it where it is
32%
[ 13 ]
Total votes : 41
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FoulFoot
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:51 pm
A quick poll here... should I remove the "Auction History" section (which lists a sample of past sales) from item pages?
Reasons to get rid of it:
They're far from complete, and for anything less than a class-5 rarity, horribly incomplete
A pain for me to keep track of
Have no impact or relevance to item values, which are determined by the Valuation Board and which (theoretically) incorporate a much greater amount of sales
Are really just a relic of when item values used to appear in that section
Cause confusion about how values are derived
Reasons to keep the section:
A nice quick-reference on some historical sales
For people who don't like change, this is a solid step in the right direction
Comments? More than about a 70% vote on this means the section is gone with the next update!
Foul
Blackmoor
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:01 pm
I voted to get rid of it but I think there should still be a some auction info on the really high priced sales (1st woodies etc)
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red_bus
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:11 pm
Hey
Foul
, shouldn't be too much trouble for you. Isn't keeping those prices updated the job of the valuation board? If they are using actual ebay completed auction values to calculate the estimated prices - then they could add in those actual prices to each section.
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Xaxaxe
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:26 pm
Spike 'em, especially for the first and fifth reasons you listed. Maybe keep some data for the true ultra-rares, but toss everything else.
killjoy32
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:32 pm
i agree with jeff and duke.
other than the very rare stuff, should remove the rest.
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jasonw1239
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:36 pm
The info for the rarest of the rares should stay. There is not many of those that appear so they should be easier to track. (woodies,
tamo
's, etc.)
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sauromatian
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:58 pm
I've never found its prices to have any relation to anything I've ever actually bought. The relative smallness of our hobby means we have too few examples to carry statistical weight. The data comes from auctions, the most chaotic way of generating a value known to man.
Even in the best circumstances, price guides for collectibles have a tenuous relationship to reality. A realistic use would be say a retailer using it to quickly price thousands of comics before taking a closer look at them. For collectors maybe they have incidental use as checklists or interesting snapshots of the genre. As investment guides for collectors they're about as reliable as horoscopes.
Maybe something could be done with the pages instead of throwing them away entirely? Such as listing only the amount & date of only the highest-ever sale. That would have historical value.
mbassoc2003
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:04 pm
I vote to get rid of it.
Other than the Class 5 rares, it doesn't give any valuable information. And there's an appraisale board if anyone want's to ask the group which also introduces new members in a positive way.
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Plaag
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:44 pm
I voted to get rid of them.
ShaneG.
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brute
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:30 pm
Keep for Class 5 rares, and the rest I'm ok without.
grodog
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:54 am
I'm fine with removing the prices (and voted to do so), but I do think we should keep the numbers for the rares ranked 4 or 5, since they do provide a quick barometer, and seeing the values gives some sense of price trending over time, which is more important than individual values in general.
If kept, the "highest price paid" items should probably be ranked in a top 10 list somewhere, instead of tracking them where they're in the individual item entries. Perhaps also provide some general top price categories: TSR produced items, non-TSR produced items, original manuscripts, and original artwork.
Perhaps also some general guidance about what the auction listing prices mean vs. what the valuation board does, with a link on each page to that info/valuation board summary, so that folks who do use the Acaeum as a price guide (and there are MANY casual sellers/gamers who do) can see the differences in the Acaeum auction listings vs. the VB price listings.
(In any general guidance blurbs about item prices, it may also be worth pointing to the Tome of Treasures as another resource for pricing details, too).
Allan Grohe (
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)
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sheeadog
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:38 pm
Ditch them. Except maybe for 4 and 5 rares but only if a more concerted effort was made to update them. Anytime I see theses, it seems the last sale listed was from 3 or 4 years ago, not very useful in my opinion anyways...
bombadil
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:10 pm
Keep the data. Never dump honest data. It's how you use them that matters.
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ExTSR
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:14 pm
Concur, keep histories for cat 4 & 5.
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Deadlord
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:17 pm
Seems it's the 4's and 5's that draw the most controversy..............
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killjoy32
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:30 pm
well could it not be the case for 4's and 5's then, instead of having a "price" listed, just list the figures for the items that have sold and allow others to judge things themselves?
then there is no argument whatsoever in any way shape or form, of "how much" an item is currently worth. you can just look at the data and choose for yourself, then each persons judgement is their own and is not based "on the acaeum" as we keep constantly hearing.
?
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Blackmoor
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:33 pm
The price guide helps to legitimize the D&D collecting hobby; it is very important to keep it going. Price guides always have critics. It is impossible to please all the people at once.
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