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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:27 am 
 

Well after being an Acaeumite for 125 months, I thought I should finally dip my toe in the water and finally start a thread....

I hadn't paid much attention to the changes in the descriptions of the Brown Boxes on the site, but a couple friends have asked me questions about the Alpha/Beta/Gamma delineations, so I thought I'd take a look. I thought Foulfoot (and others) would like to know what I own, which in some cases contradicts the information listed in the Rares section. I have 8 1st print Brown Boxes.
1.) NM condition, a thing of beauty. Alpha
2.) VF Brian Blume's personal copy. Alpha
3.)      Tim Kask's personal copy. Alpha
4.)      Rob Kuntz's personal copy. Alpha (the books are notated and beaten; just think what adventures they witnessed)
5.)      Terry Kuntz's personal copy. Alpha
6.) Fine condition. Alpha
7.) Good-/Fair+ condition. Beta
8.) VG- condition. Gamma


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:38 am 
 

There is a back story to the confusion surrounding Tim Kask's set. I won it at Gencon in 1996. After emailing with Foulfoot after joining the Acaeum, he asked that I have sent to him scans of some of my items, which included Tim's 1st print books and box (that had no stickers on it). Well fast forward a couple of years, and Tim had another brown box for sale. I won it, and he told me the rest of the story. The nutshell version is that he thought as a representative of TSR that when he went around to tournaments, he shouldn't have a brown box that has duct tape on it, so he grabbed an unused box (that had not had any labels put on it) and he housed his Alpha 1st print books in there for 15+ years. I now have been able to reunite his Alpha books with his Alpha box (with a little duct tape thrown in as well).


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:51 am 
 

The assembling of the Brown Boxes was an inexact science to say the least, the small stickers sometimes going on the left side, sometimes the right, and some were undoubtedly messed up. Well Rob Kuntz was getting a set to play with, he didn't care that his lacked the large front sticker, best that all the sets that had the big sticker be sold.

Some folks have seen the exterior of Rob's box and I guess assumed that it was a Gamma based on the lack of a large front sticker, but nobody ever asked me, so I thought I'd correct the misconception.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:35 am 
 

Congrats on your first thread  PDT_Armataz_01_34  and quite an interesting and insightful one as well.

I'm sure that everyone will enjoy the back story to these highly coveted items, especially after the recent sale of a 1st print Beta for over $7,000.00  8-O

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:56 am 
 

Do any of the TSR employee sets (Blume/Kask/Kuntzes) have notes written in them? Corrections, Clarifications, Rule Additions?

Even if we can't tell when the notes were made it would still be neat to hear about them.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:22 pm 
 

Your first thread? Who are you again???  :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:29 pm 
 

I love the pictures floating around somewhere on the forum of stratochamp's vault. It will put you through a range of emotions (  8O  to   :?  to  :x  to  :cry: to  :D )

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:19 pm 
 

Aw. You don't have the Frankenstein 1st print signed by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson? I'm disappointed in you stratochamp.

Seriously though, congrats on such an impressive collection.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:50 pm 
 

Eight!  8O

Eight of them and I can't seem to scrounge just one.  It isn't fair. Not fair at all.   :?  :D


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:51 am 
 

Well 8 first print woodies would knock down anyone... i am impressed... but the real question is that you mentioned them as they are 1st print (the topic is that one, eheheh...): how many other woodies are sitting on your shelves?!?! Ah pls do not mention the nr of the whiteys...


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:10 am 
 

Two 2nd print, three 3rd print.

To Zenopus: Yes there are lots of interesting notes there, modifications to Charts & Tables and Spells and Magic Items, etc. etc.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:49 am 
 

I'm curious now. Was the person who bought the first print signed by Gygax and Arneson a part of the Acaeum community as well?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:36 am 
 

Zenopus wrote in 1st Print Brown Boxes:Do any of the TSR employee sets (Blume/Kask/Kuntzes) have notes written in them? Corrections, Clarifications, Rule Additions?

Even if we can't tell when the notes were made it would still be neat to hear about them.


Rob's set of books are heavily annotated---Bill graciously allowed me to peruse the set while I was visiting with him on the way to GaryCon a couple of years ago.

Getting a list of all of the annotations in Rob's set (and the others, if they're similarly annotated) would be quite valuable!


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:00 pm 
 

Semper Invicta wrote in 1st Print Brown Boxes:I'm curious now. Was the person who bought the first print signed by Gygax and Arneson a part of the Acaeum community as well?


There seem to have been 2 of these at least:

A stained one stocked on 4/30/10:
D&D - Original Woodgrain Box (1st Printing, Autographed)

A VG+/NM one stocked 12/4/09:
D&D - Original Woodgrain Box (1st Printing, Autographed)

I am guessing that the 1st print rumored to have sold for $10,000 might have been the second one.  Do we have any spies at Noble Knight?

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:15 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote in 1st Print Brown Boxes:Two 2nd print, three 3rd print.

Tsk; not enough space left after the 1st prints have claimed first rights? ;) (Almost back down to that number after reuniting several boxes with their original/previous owners.)


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:19 pm 
 

Cedgewick wrote in 1st Print Brown Boxes:A VG+/NM one stocked 12/4/09:
D&D - Original Woodgrain Box (1st Printing, Autographed)

I am guessing that the 1st print rumored to have sold for $10,000 might have been the second one.  Do we have any spies at Noble Knight?

I'd still love to know who messed around with the components in that set.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:03 pm 
 

Its not just an amazing feat to get 8 copies....its freaking 8 copies from legends in the industry...hold on to that set buddy you can sell those down the road to buy Neverland soon.

Impressed and jealous to say the least.

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:22 pm 
 

Stratochamp's collection is simply amazing, one of the best Fantasy RPG collections in the world  :)


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