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Post Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:36 pm 
 

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I am about to get prints ordered for the Jeff Dee original painting that is the cover of my kickstarter box set. I have a couple of questions however and was going to just PM them to BenJoshua since he did such a kickass job on the Easley print but I figured I would ask the collective hive mind here as well.

Here is the painting (it was also at Jeff's booth at NTRPG Con for those of you that went). It is a picture from a cell phone, not a scan.

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I am going to do a 1 time printing of top-quality prints of it. It's 14.25" x 17.25". Jeff has agreed to sign and number them for high level backers and as an add-on choice for others. I expect the cost to be reasonable for the add-on, it's free to high-level backers (I am not adding very much in the way of margin, I would rather see better prints than more leftover cash for me).

1. To keep it exclusive can I do something to ensure that, on the very low chance the original sells, these prints have some form of identifying mark to keep them from being confused if more prints get made (again, knowing the market even the little that I do I do not see this as a problem that is likely to come up).

2. I found a high-end poster printer in Arizona (at a game store oddly) and he has done print making for galleries etc. He mentioned something I had never heard of that he did for some of his clients- printing on canvas. Would this interest anyone or just be an unnecessary expense? If I did a few of those and made them the first 10 prints but I issued say a total of 30 would they still be label 1-30 or 1-10 and 1-20 respectively.

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:59 pm 
 

I really like the way you think Zach.

1) I think that if you number and date the prints (together or separately) and can get Jeff's autograph... should be plenty.

2) Canvas sounds expensive, and if that expense endangers the kickstarters overall success, then IMO it would not be worth it.
So go with canvas only if you determine the cost will be feasible.
Speaking only for myself? I would be happy with a high quality paper print signed by Jeff.

If a few canvas prints would NOT be too much...but 30 canvas prints would be cost prohibitive.
Then perhaps only your "high-level backers" get canvas prints, whether it is 8, 10, or 12 prints....
Whatever backing level "high-level backers" means to you is the number of canvas prints.
You mentioned 10, so I would guess that was the number you have already decided on.

All other prints on good quality paper... numbered 1 of 20...
I think they would sell in a short time.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:37 am 
 

Canvas is expensive, I was going to offer it as an upgrade option to backers for cost (plus additional shipping) if they want it.

I just really want to make this the Maserati of Kickstarter projects but I won't allow myself to go broke either :)

Plus if heaven smiled on me and someone backed at the God Emperor level for the original art I know I will be doing this for my own copy :)

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:53 am 
 

As an art collector, I would give the advice to make canvass a high-level backer reward/option.  It is expensive but the print looks a lot better to me and will last much longer.

I should have prefaced my remark by saying, I am not a high-level backer.

Really admire the way your doing things for this Kickstarter Zach!

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:10 am 
 

Prufrock wrote in Question for Limited Art Print Collectors:As an art collector, I would give the advice to make canvass a high-level backer reward/option.  It is expensive but the print looks a lot better to me and will last much longer.

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Really admire the way your doing things for this Kickstarter Zach!

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Hey thanks Martin! It is in the lull phase (slow insanity for me) now, but I am very pleased with it. I got a color sample of the poster map by Alyssa Faden today and it is so awesome I wanted to let people know that I am going to make an option to have it printed on the highest quality paper as well. Still getting the quotes but I think it is going to be one of the finest frpg maps made in a looonnggg time...it was not cheap and it was worth every penny.

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Here is the black & white about 80% complete...

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:44 pm 
 

Yeah, I love that poster map.  I will certainly up my pledge amout to cover any upgrade for this map.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:53 pm 
 

Prufrock wrote in Question for Limited Art Print Collectors:Yeah, I love that poster map.  I will certainly up my pledge amout to cover any upgrade for this map.

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I am glad to send more money to Zach


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:57 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote in Question for Limited Art Print Collectors:
Prufrock wrote in Question for Limited Art Print Collectors:Yeah, I love that poster map.  I will certainly up my pledge amout to cover any upgrade for this map.

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I am glad to send more money to Zach


I appreciate the enthusiasm, trust me ever since Alyssa put the image in my dropbox NOBODY is more excited than I am. When I commissioned it I was very specific that price was a secondary consideration to getting the absolute best hand-drawn map she could produce. Personally I think she outdid herself, she certainly surpassed my most optimistic hope for the map. My Kickstarter is an obvious window into my favorite game nostalgia minis, box and dice were very important to me, but the map the element I was going to have no matter what.

This could change slightly but here is the plan...

Everyone at $175 or higher will get the map professionally folded in the box at a very upgraded size (Matt, Bill, Ryan, John and the rest of you at the $250 level will get them tubed and rolled free (even to my backer from Japan, though that will cost me in the end, he has been my most vocal supporter in the comments). It will be on 36 lb presentation poster paper.

There will be a new cartography backer level soon and the price will land at between $30-$40 US tubed and rolled. Any other US backer can get one by adding-on that amount at the pledge. I hope they have wall space though...those maps are going to be huge!

I have two choices and a promise not to divulge the costs (very, very reasonable to me and recommended by Alyssa, thus reasonable to you as well :))

Details to be finalized but these are the sizes... Remember the funding level only got 11 x 17 so these are a big upgrade...

[EDIT- I talked with Alyssa and the biggest one will be the one below, the larger size showed the slightest pixelation and I won't sell it like that]

42" x 30" this will the standard size offered for high-level box sets (except uber levels) and I will have it professionally folded thanks to advice from Frog God's First Couple (Bill and his lovely wife). Tubed will be an upgrade choice (except at $250 then it's free)

As I said the ones for the boxes aren't finalized a la which size until I get more info on the other fees, but regardless the $30-$40 cartography pledge level add-on will go live later tonight. I know I will definitely be printing at least 3 of the biggest I can make (it will be the 48 x 36, if that can be done) on Canvas and will offer interested backers that option completely at cost i.e. the upgrade/add-on price plus the true cost (zero-margin for me) of getting these done above that. Same with the Jeff Dee cover, which will be on 212g museum quality paper with an option to upgrade at cost.

I want to maximize the rewards of high-level backers and I want to get anyone who wants either (or both) of these the best print that I can make happen. I do this because Alyssa and Jeff's artistry deserves it and as a shout out to those who appreciate their work.

Zach

[EDIT: Here is another piece of the map in color...both images only make up about 10% of the total map]

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EDIT: I verified everything with Alyssa so it's correct (signed, numbered etc) The largest map she is personally checking the test on tomorrow (she saw the other sizes), I will make that upgrade available once I am 100% sure it will be perfect, the regular pledge level is going live tonight...so why not get ahead of the game and add $40 to your pledge...In if we make $150 dollars tonight I am getting another sculpt made...if we don't I save $300...I know you all like watching me spend money ;) Z



  


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:41 pm 
 

Man those images look niiice! Love maps.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:55 am 
 

brute wrote in Question for Limited Art Print Collectors:Man those images look niiice! Love maps.


So do I :) Fantasy cartography is my favorite individual element of a game set. Alyssa was not inexpensive, but for my money (which it was :) ) Alyssa is the best.

Since you love maps...here is an image that gives you an idea of the scale and quality....

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and an a half finished coloring job on another portion

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:40 pm 
 

This is cross-posted in the Kickstarter projects thread in the non-TSR forum...this will be my last post on this one because I am the kind of guy who respects forum norms...that is how this gnome rolls :)

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Here is the now even closer to finished map...the image is low-res but I assure you the map is high quality

I am going to get a very limited number of canvas prints made of both the map and the original art by Jeff Dee- they will be signed and number by the respective artists and an option for world class art print paper as well...

please PM me if you are interested, I will announce it to everyone in my Kickstarter soon but of all my backers the ones who will want it will in all likelihood be from here anyway...

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:41 am 
 

Finally, just to close up this thread, I wanted to show off a little bit of the final canvas print of the map from my project- the idea behind making a high end print started reading here. Scroll down for the end result.

Thanks to the advice from the Art Committee and generous supporters here I was able to get the map from this long ago thread printed on high quality canvas. The six of these printed all turned out very nice at a final size of 43" x 31".

I am very pleased indeed.

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The bundle as they arrived from the printer-

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Close-ups of the canvas

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On a war council table :)

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With the WV Box

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And finally with some no-name author (for scale) :) -

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