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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:32 pm 
 

I received an email from ebay today, informing me that wildcard searches will no longer be supported in a few days.  They have improved "search capabilities on eBay that now take into account many spelling variations."

Right... I'm sure whatever they've worked out will be so much better at catching all the misspellings of cthulhu than the cth* I've been using.

Bastards...


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:27 pm 
 

Hi,

have to admit, I think this sucks too.

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:32 pm 
 

What I don't understand is how screwing with the search system helps them in any way?


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:02 pm 
 

All I've come up with is that as they inch toward being a storefront, they expect more sellers to select what an item is, instead of describing it, so the titles could be more standardized.  In theory that would work, except for three pretty key things:

1.  There are still a ton of people who use ebay to sell only a few things, or are (comparatively) small retailers.  They don't have automated systems to post things, so typos happen.  Ebay still makes something from this group of sellers, no?  Why wouldn't they want to keep them?
2.  It totally fails for non mainstream retail goods (i.e. collectibles) as there is no standard to select from.
3.  How can it possibly handle a situation where someone is looking for a part number?  They know it's in the JK08 series, but whether it's a JX08001, JX08002, ... , JX08999 they aren't sure.  Or a television where I know I want UN32EH4000F but I didn't realize there was a color code too and it should be UN32EH4000FBLK or UN32EH4000FWHT?  To match those... they'd have to add the * behind the scenes anyway!  Or build a database/lookup table to handle all the possibilities... which is not likely not going to be faster and would definitely require more upkeep.


A lot of ebay decisions I can at least sort of understand, even if I think they're dumb.  This I really don't get.  Apparently no one else does either.  Removing a powerful tool that likely wasn't used my most of the community, but was essential to those who did use it?  No clue.  It really bugs me as a computer professional - regular expressions are incredibly powerful and critical tools.

I've been looking at ebay's forums, and tipped off a couple tech blogs (techcrunch, mashable) to see if they have interest in investigating.  Probably not, but it only took a minute.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:19 pm 
 

It's simple. The wider your net is, the more listings you have to wade through, which increases visibility.  They've been doing a form of this for years with their "Are you sure you meant "X"?  Here is "Y" instead in case you meant Y" bullshit. Having you find something faster means less time spent on the site.

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:30 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:It's simple. The wider your net is, the more listings you have to wade through, which increases visibility.  They've been doing a form of this for years with their "Are you sure you meant "X"?  Here is "Y" instead in case you meant Y" bullshit. Having you find something faster means less time spent on the site.

Precisely.  eBay is figuring out the same sort of thing that Google has -- they really don't like targeted searches that get the searcher exactly what he/she wants.  They'd much rather you browse, because it increases exposure.  The next step, I would guess, is to prevent you from searching descriptions, only titles.  They've already done this for completed auction searches.

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:53 pm 
 

There are plenty of people who will argue most every decision/war/movement/whatever has to do with money.  This is a perfect example of that if you ask me.   :roll:

One trick I have heard about, and I believe there's some merit to it, that longer descriptions in eBay listings do better.  The longer you look, the greater the chance for a bid or sale.  However, I really try to provide lots of useful information and not just fillers like my grading scale descriptions or a list of all the things I won't do.   8)


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Post Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:11 am 
 

Whatever they're doing, they needed to do something. In recent months if I enter something like "dungeons dragons" I get everything with the initials " A. D. D.," such as computer batteries.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:00 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote:Whatever they're doing, they needed to do something. In recent months if I enter something like "dungeons dragons" I get everything with the initials " A. D. D.," such as computer batteries.

... and religious tracts, and books about kids with ADD, etc.

It's too simple: only search for what the person types. Period. If you're worried about them spelling something incorrectly, leave the search alone, and offer them some 'did you really mean' options.

I suspect the 'improved' searches mentioned in the OP are exactly what you've illustrated. So no, they're not going to fix this. It is the fix.


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Post Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:34 pm 
 

It makes it harder to find something that has been accidentally put in the wrong category, since at least for me I immediately start limiting categories just to get the amount of items manageable.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:11 pm 
 

SimperingToad wrote:
sauromatian wrote:Whatever they're doing, they needed to do something. In recent months if I enter something like "dungeons dragons" I get everything with the initials " A. D. D.," such as computer batteries.

... and religious tracts, and books about kids with ADD, etc.

It's too simple: only search for what the person types. Period. If you're worried about them spelling something incorrectly, leave the search alone, and offer them some 'did you really mean' options.

I suspect the 'improved' searches mentioned in the OP are exactly what you've illustrated. So no, they're not going to fix this. It is the fix.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:42 am 
 

Ref to search tips, how do i exclude an ID from any search i want to perform? I am getting more and more annoyed by the tons of stuff listed everyday by KN... thanks!


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:36 pm 
 

Do a search.  Then on the long menu down the left side, look for Sellers.  In that, look for Specify Sellers.  That will pop up a window where you can list sellers you want to exclude.  Like you, I don't want to bother looking at the sellers who list their entire inventories every week or month (plus a known bad seller or two).  This cuts out about 15-20% of the listings, so it's that much easier to scan through the rest.

My current exclusion list:  www_nobleknight_com, trollandtoadstore, dicehead, arthur, one-eyed-jacques, cougarrinard, mostlydicestore, g2ch, miniaturemarket, unusualdice_com

To be clear, I do deal with several of those companies, but if I want to do so, I go their site directly or specifically search their listings for a new item I want.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:07 am 
 

Great, thanks a lot!
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