It was only a matter of time! I actually tried to do something productive

Member "Allison" on here sends me this missive the other day via Ebay:

"Your shipping is very excessive - maybe an error? Ebay does not allow that and you risk your feedback, or being banned from Ebay."

Of course the dumbass (and yes that word is very appropriate...) neglects to see my feedback (although low) is outstanding. More onto her antics in a minute... I got multiples of those types of messages (which is fine to send me a "question" AS ALLISON CLAIMS TO HAVE DONE) but not fine to make unfounded "accusations" WHICH ALLISON ACTUALLY DID ABOVE. So I get spooked and end the Ebay auction. Sorry guys... I know some of you were very interested and I wanted to make a sale there:/ There's a lot more to this but back to "Allison".

So I respond in kind. Allison doesn't seem to have a grasp on "Logic" and/or the English language although she has assured me she's a "Classy" "Lady"... yeah... So let me break it down for you here "Allison" since you refuse to admit you were in the wrong.

You said: Your shipping is very excessive (and continue). Let me break this down for you Allison. What you're actually saying here is this: My shipping = very excessive. This is a statement where you accuse my shipping being "very excessive". You have REFUSED to elaborate upon this further yet it's the very first thing YOU, a complete stranger to me, has ever uttered. You ramble on: "maybe an error?" this is where you give me an out. At this point you're telling me this Allison: My shipping is whacked out but if it was an "error" then it's OK but otherwise no, it's not OK. Your first utterance there gives me no leeway. You didn't say something along the lines of, "your shipping "seems" excessive". Your question to me was this Allison: If your shipping is actually what you say it is then it's too much and you "could be banned get bad feedback blah blah blah...".
If my shipping is accurate you're simply in the wrong Alison. If you're in the wrong then you owe me the apology you have refused to give me while continuing on and on about how I'm the one who "insulted you" and intimidated you after you cast the 1st stone and immediately insulted me (by your accusation) and intimidated me (by using terms like being banned from Ebay).
You go on and on about random BS and never once give me any advice how to ship my -1 of- items cheaply (and safe) yet you refuse to ever admit YOU were in the wrong initially and get upset with me when I respond in kind?? You're an ass Allison. Feel free to copy and paste every communication we've had with one another here and look like more of an ass...
C ya later!

Too many people fucking with me here guys. Sorry but I'm out along with my art thread:wink:
Unfortunately I'm unable to mention another situation which is going on with a very beloved person TO US ALL by another person who might be responsible with my present grief. misterspock can attest to what I'm saying here and although I'm "abbrasive" and seemingly rude sometimes know that I'm nothing like Allison who gets her thrills going after random strangers and dishing out accusations without being able to take them.
Also ask Prufrock, Beasterbrooke, Stratochamp, the list goes on but I'm afraid I don't remember, if I ever manipulated one penny of a profit out of shipping...
I'm outta here!

And my other real last post! Please PLEASE ask misterspock about me if you seriously doubt my integrity, sincerity... whatever.
I'm 100% honestly telling You that a person who resides here is making the life of a very BELOVED person to probably us all MISERABLE right under your noses. I shit you not. Like REAL LIFE misery involving sleepless nights and suffering and hunger even. Serious guys. This place has gotten corrupted:(
I'm leaving the tavern now!

Looks like something else has been happening here appart from my question in the Shady Dealer threads.

People ask questions and post statements on the forum all the time about this transaction or that; about this eBayer or that. Hell, Pip even questioned in jest about my possible relation to Jonb/Lisa's Stiff. These are all valid questions, and whilst some people may act fast, or send private messages to sellers via eBay, the nature of eBay now is that not everyone knows who everyone else is on eBay. I spend a hige chunk of time each day watching transactions and price  movements on eBay, and I try to keep a handle on which seller belongs to which board member. From my recollection (and I haven't gone back to check) the eBay ID had a reletively small amount of feedback (in the 40's) and looked like a newbie or someone who rarely operates on eBay. Most people here on the forum do not fall into that demographic. I for one did not pit two and two together.

Hell, I have six years of feedback, mostly from other D&Ders, and people still don't recognise my eBay ID. Even extablished Acaeum members.

I cannot talk wisely of anything that's happened on messaging through eBay, but in regard to my post in the Shady Dealer thread, I offer my heart felt apology for any wrong you feel.

Welcome to the real world Tharizdun. Sometimes people say things to you that either piss you off or are hurtful.
On some of those occasions you misinterpret what is being asked/said and overreact.
You have the choice to either run from the fight or hold the line and defend your position until there is either a clear winner or a stalemate.
Your choice friend.

I'd agree with Pru, I'm confused..

The reaction seems extreme as a result of questioning an ebay seller on excessive shipping costs. That happens all the time it seems.

The other intimated points from Thariz relate to something outside that deal and the Acaeum it seems, which this may or may not be the place to elaborate on, unless its via PM.

Providing its based on fact and heresay...

Have to say, this comes as a shot out of the blue, but if there is some underhandedness going on through the Acaeum, I'd like to know in case I get stung by someone involved. Which I hasten to add, I have not previously and have only very good experiences with those I have dealt with on here!  

everybody has bad experiences on ebay at some point or another. if you don't then youre damn lucky to have missed them.

sometimes you just need to get to the bottom of a problem and resolve it. if it relates to folk on this site, majority of the time, it gets sorted and fixed. if it doesnt, then well frankly it will get talked about by the ones who feel aggrieved!

i have no idea what is expensive for shipping in the states and am guided by what friends say who live there. if martin says $20 was reasonable for what he got...i take that as a decent guide, so yes, $35 is then excessive - all you had to do was justify it. if you feel it justified and the person buying doesnt, then well you will get hammered for it - thats how it works right?

sometimes its also down to the decency of the seller right off. if my shipping is excessive, once i have posted something, its common for me to actually refund without being asked - to me thats the sign of a good seller looking after what he does and the buyer too.

but hey what do i know.

i hope this all gets resolved and feel a little aggrieved that the whole site is being tarnished with the same brush - thats defo bad form.

Alan

I'm a little confused also.
You pulled an auction with a few hours to go because you had displayed an incorrect shipping cost?! I don't get that at all.
Why not just let me and Pip' fight it out, along with whoever else was going to bid on it, and then ship it to the winner at whatever was the correct cost?
There was no need to pull the whole auction on us because someone had questioned your shipping cost, whether we knew it was you or not.

I dont have much of an idea as to what actually happened behind the scenes with this one, but how many people really think that this:

"Your shipping is very excessive - maybe an error? Ebay does not allow that and you risk your feedback, or being banned from Ebay."

...is really all that "intimidating" or "threatening"?  It's a matter-of-fact statement.  Whether the shipping quoted was excessive or not (I have no idea since I didnt look at the auction) Ebay rules are pretty specific about charging too much for shipping.  You can get banned by doing so.  And contacting a seller in the above manner to let them know as such doesnt seem like all that big of a deal to me.  I guess if a person sends this instead:

"Your shipping is very excessive.  If you dont lower it I will contact Ebay and have you banned."

....then to me that has gone over the line and I can see someone getting upset about it.  The way the sentence comes off is threatening.  But I just dont get the same from the original sentence.  

This whole mess is extremely confusing and it didnt help that the original poster mentioned a separate issue about a "beloved person TO US ALL" that was also a source of grief.  Very cryptic to say the least and should never have been mentioned simply because all it does is raise more questions of credibilty regarding the original poster IMO.  And unless you are moving to a part of the world where the internet doesnt exist, dying, or going to war, a "goodbye" thread where you spout negatively about another forum member really is bad form.  Kind of petty IMO.

If anything, this should also make it obvious that the Shady Dealers thread shouldnt be used for anything except a "clear and present" danger to the collecting community.  If a possibility exists (and it usually does) that there is a miscommunication or misunderstanding between seller and buyer, potential or otherwise, then use some restraint until you are absolutely sure that the seller is a bad one before posting the auction or ID.

When I sell something, I list it with a guessed-at shipping rate, which is usually much higher than it will end up being, and I say so in my listing... with one other little thing: if the shipping price is higher, I pay the remainder, but it the actual shipping rate is lower, I refund the difference (and then I do.) When I direct sell something, I get a shipping quote before I give the buyer a final price... eBay doesn't let me do that because I don't know where, or how, the item will be shipped (I guess I could limit it, but then I limit sales, too.)

Anyway, the point is simple -- as a buyer, you can be mean and demand a refund for excessive shipping prices and you can neg the seller for it, too. As a seller, you can do things to prevent it from happening. Which you do depends on how you are.