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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:25 pm

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:I assume this is a desirable piece, for those into this sort of thing:

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Over $100 and reserve still not met. ?!

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:48 pm

A $500 reserve would be quite reasonable. I am sure I paid more for mine and was happy to get it. These don't come up often and the only real question is have the collectors who were willing to pay $700+ all got one now.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:28 pm

ExTSR wrote:
MetamorphosisSigma wrote:I assume this is a desirable piece, for those into this sort of thing:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Over $100 and reserve still not met. ?!

Frank

I paid over $1625 for the minty minty minty copy I got in Sep 2009 and there was some final last minute bidding between 3 bidders...

so... $100 ain't nothing... and I just placed a bid on this set as well (those interested, bid large)

I was even approached by one of the artists to make a hi rez scan of 2 pieces for him since he no longer had a copy of the works. Which of course I was glad to provide.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:13 pm

** expired/removed eBay auction **
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Castle Zagyg: Upper Works Box Set.

It was posted in this thread while it was still going, but I wanted to bring it up once more.

Final price $236.03... and this one has a torn corner on the box bottom.

Even so, a nice price for the seller.

Of course only the future will tell, but I do not believe this is the limit for this box set.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:39 pm

ScketreWhisp® wrote:
ExTSR wrote:Over $100 and reserve still not met. ?!

Frank

I paid over $1625 for the minty minty minty copy I got in Sep 2009 and there was some final last minute bidding between 3 bidders...

so... $100 ain't nothing... and I just placed a bid on this set as well (those interested, bid large)

I was even approached by one of the artists to make a hi rez scan of 2 pieces for him since he no longer had a copy of the works. Which of course I was glad to provide.

Funny; I had no idea. It had one $0.99 bid when I first came upon it, and I wasn't even interested enough to be tempted to bid $1.49. To each his own.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:59 pm

Gee, I'll have to dig through my archives. I may have some stashed.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:17 pm

The portfolio was released by the RPGA in 1982, but printed in very limited quantities (approximately 200). According to Frank Mentzer (a TSR staff member at the time), very few of these were actually sold, and the rest presumably pulped.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:19 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
** expired/removed eBay auction **
?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

Castle Zagyg: Upper Works Box Set.

It was posted in this thread while it was still going, but I wanted to bring it up once more.

Final price $236.03... and this one has a torn corner on the box bottom.

Even so, a nice price for the seller.

Of course only the future will tell, but I do not believe this is the limit for this box set.

I'd previously thought BINs were the way to go on these, helped by the coug's still-absurd $400+ ask, and that was still being reflected by the previous sales at $161 in auction, in better condition than the current sale (
** expired/removed eBay auction **
) vs. $289 BIN, better again but with that after-production shrink (
** expired/removed eBay auction **
).

The fire-sale flood of these hasn't hurt, anyhow; that's for sure.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:25 pm

Tharizdun wrote:
The portfolio was released by the RPGA in 1982, but printed in very limited quantities (approximately 200). According to Frank Mentzer (a TSR staff member at the time), very few of these were actually sold, and the rest presumably pulped.

The previously-listed sales ( VF: $138 (9/04), VF/SW: $170 (8/03) ) still sound more reasonable for what it is than the recent "+999%" IMHO. Whether there are enough copies around to satisfy those with the deepest pockets (and desire for multiple copies?) to effect a longer-term reduction /towards/ those previous values is another question.

A complete set of Rs & RPGAs would probably appeal more to most people, I suspect.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:44 pm

I obtained a copy of the art portfolio for $1500 some years ago
It is the most 'rare' non-unique item that I have tracked.
The last few that sold on Ebay for large amounts didn't draw additional copies to auction as tends to happen with 'rare' items that do well..

The Planescape art book is also a rare and appears to have a similar circumstance.

I'd guess the extreme scarcity drives the price of these items as was my thinking when I bought mine. Pharaoh is another example of a rare item I bought in this manner. I hope these retain some value or even go up but I have no regrets.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:48 pm

Frank, fess up, they weren't pulped. They are in one of your warehouses!

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:17 pm

Beat up (and I'm being generous) AC5 in this group:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:52 am

Faro,

I generally have tremendous respect for your opinion on value. Regarding the portfolio.... it's worth remembering that there actually are collectors who focus on art. And there are a lot of interesting rare prints in it. Further, it appears that 15-20 might be an optimistic estimate of the survival rate. Some of the artwork is better than others, of course. But is any vintage TSR print by a known artist in a surviving print of 12 worth less than at least 1/2 of what you suggest for the entire portfolio. I have never been one to tear up books for the illustrated plates or to split art portfolios for profit. Nonetheless, there value has to take into account the fact that some dealers do so.

As the market seems on an uptick, I would not be surprised at a $1500+ price. Nor, would I be shocked at 500-700. That's the nature of auctions. Two buyers have to be there with the money and desire. Not long ago, the market was saturated and the recession was preventing new collectors from jumping high end items. I think the only big question mark regarding the portfolio is if any of them have enough collecting experience to realize they may not get many shots at a portfolio. These seem to come along about once a year and get placed in near permanent stable collections. These could easily end up surprisingly expensive in ten years as many of us will be in our 50's and at peak age relative to collecting interest and discretionary income. The 50's have always been the collecting sweet spot between getting kids out of the house and worries about retirement.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:29 pm

Pipswich wrote:..... Two buyers have to be there with the money and desire. Not long ago, the market was saturated and the recession was preventing new collectors from jumping high end items. I think the only big question mark regarding the portfolio is if any of them have enough collecting experience to realize they may not get many shots at a portfolio. These seem to come along about once a year and get placed in near permanent stable collections. These could easily end up surprisingly expensive in ten years as many of us will be in our 50's and at peak age relative to collecting interest and discretionary income. The 50's have always been the collecting sweet spot between getting kids out of the house and worries about retirement.

Agree with almost all of this....
Except that I am already in the 50's.... mot that I am a serious threat for bidding on something like this.

The part I highlighted and changed to Red is true for ANY RARE and expensive collectable item. (obviously)

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:19 pm

Hi,

"woodgrain" DMG & MM

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:40 am

Very nice looking HUGE lot.

Nothing rare, but plenty of stock for a re-seller to drool over for a while.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-AD-D-BOOK-LOT-SUPER-LOW-PRICE-/251012530240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71834040

Yes, there are a few pigs in the lot, but at least you get to see them all.

About a dozen or so Monster Folios and Three Three Ring Binders too.

Those alone make the starting price of $149.99 a viable bid.

About a dozen Box Sets, about 80 books, a stack of plastic minis, a few pounds of dice... and other stuff.

And the BIN is only $100 more at $249.99.

If I were an e-Bay re-seller, I would have hit this one already.

And even so, my lack of the Monster Folios made me think twice.

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 am

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The R-2: The investigation of Hydell
EDIT: ROUGH condition and Starting at $99...

Same seller will list R-3 and R-4 as well.

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:04 am

Pipswich wrote:Regarding the portfolio.... it's worth remembering that there actually are collectors who focus on art. And there are a lot of interesting rare prints in it. Further, it appears that 15-20 might be an optimistic estimate of the survival rate.

It's possible that "and the rest presumably pulped" may actually be true for some items but, thus far, that's proven to be the exception rather than the rule.

Pipswich wrote:Some of the artwork is better than others, of course. But is any vintage TSR print by a known artist in a surviving print of 12 worth less than at least 1/2 of what you suggest for the entire portfolio. I have never been one to tear up books for the illustrated plates or to split art portfolios for profit. Nonetheless, there value has to take into account the fact that some dealers do so.

"/Towards/ those previous values"...
Artwork collectors do appear to operate in a different $$$ realm sometimes and breaking up would certainly yield some value but erring on the side of caution the prints are mono, unsigned and unnumbered with, afaik, nothing to identify them as "rare" unless you're "in the know". Not a trivial cost to frame a dozen prints either, should one wish. At the current (reserve not met) bid, that's running at a price-per-print that original, signed artwork has sold for for the artists involved: well known artwork, too.

Oh well, roll on the day that individual leaves from woodgrain box sets are sold like those from incunabula.

"Value" does often seem to be as much a result of how high profile a listing a given item receives as anything else.

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