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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:55 am 
 

Well, I was right I just said it in a much nicer way. I like roleplaying without all the bells and whistles for the same reasons I like reading books.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:59 am 
 

Cattledog wrote:Well, I was right I just said it in a much nicer way. I like roleplaying without all the bells and whistles for the same reasons I like reading books.

As a frequent reader of children's books, the ones with bells and whistles are by far the most entertaining.  (It's best if they have little patches resembling fur, scales, and feathers, too.  Those get giggles.)

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:01 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
He is now officially the Moronic Mormon Modron Goat. :D


Excuse me, but if you have a minute I'd like to talk to you about the Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints... :D

  


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:08 pm 
 

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Excuse me, but if you have a minute I'd like to talk to you about the Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints... :D


I am interested, but if the have more than 4 sides they creep me out. :wink:


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:12 pm 
 

The 4E site is up ...

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/welcome

The sound effect every time you back to the home page is really starting to annoy me ...


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:56 pm 
 

still getting head around strange font. sound effect does not help :) :)

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:59 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:still getting head around strange font. sound effect does not help :) :)


Thus your head being upside down  :wink:

Basic rules of magazines and newspapers.  Use fonts which are easy for the human eye to read and shorter columns are better as wider columns make the eye work harder.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:08 pm 
 

Yuck:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drpr/20070816a

Playtest Report


Our staff is hard at work playtesting 4th Edition, and each week, we'll give you a look inside one of our very own D&D games. These articles include plenty of homebrewed material that the players and DMs have made up to suit their own campaigns, just like your games, but we'll be sure to point out when they're stretching their creative muscles.

Keep in mind that the game is still in a state of flux, as refinements are made by our design and development staff. You're getting a look behind the curtain at game design in progress, so enjoy, and feel free to send your comments to dndinsider@wizards.com.


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June 28th, Thursday Night, Wizards Conference Room (Wayne Manor).
Campaign Arc: Castle Smoulderthorn
DM: Dave Noonan
Players: Bruce Cordell (yours truly), Richard Baker, Logan Bonner, and Toby Latin

Before we begin play, another player is giving Rich grief about one of Rich's character's abilities that grants the rest of us a blanket +2 to saves; it just ain't sexy. Rich says something like, "I don't know, I doubt I'll use it that much, but who knows, maybe everyone in the party will get entangled."

Sure enough, not 10 minutes later this fire-crazed flame priest has entangled half the party with fire snakes! Rich throws up his +2 to saves and, voila, at least two of us get free immediately. I guess that power isn't so corner case after all.

In my case, I've thrown together a "psion." It's because prior to the shift to the new playtest rules, I was playing a psion elan named Infandous. You wonder, why the scare quotes? Well, just between you and me, updated-Infandous-the-psion is actually a wizard with the serial numbers filed off.

Anyhow, I missed the last few sessions, so I'm slightly confused when the session begins—apparently the group is still breathing hard from their last session, not even rested or healed, when we hear a shuffle of footsteps from behind a set of double doors. The doors aren't completely closed, so I "mentally" whip them open from across the room.

Coming down the hallway is a troop of azer, some sort of burning serpent, and the flame priest I mentioned earlier. And it was a fight! And . . . we won. Without really breaking a sweat, either, truth be told.

Emboldened, we advanced down that hallway now littered with azer remains and ash, took a right, and pretty quickly found a dusty lintel inscribed with the words: Tomb of the Black Host.

"Sounds like someplace loot is stored," said Infandous, eager to expand his repertoire of cool equipment. A little more discussion, and we pushed on the door. It opened . . .

And Dave spent nearly 10 minutes constructing (using Dungeon Tiles!) an ominous, crypt-lined ruin complete with three golden sarcophagi that emanated magic. Dave did a good job laying out the floor plan of the room. Such a good job that we lingered in the door looking into the shadow-lined mausoleum for a minute, then, another . . . then decided as a group that, loot or no loot, perhaps it would be better to let whatever lay in the deathly quite of the tomb alone. So, we closed the door and continued down the main hallway.

Sorry, Dave.




Its defintely going to feel alot like 3E..


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:08 pm 
 

I just watched the three videos produced during the unveiling of 4th. Ugh! I'll admit that I play 3rd (I skipped 2nd), but this new system does not seem promising.  :? Aside from the fact that the speakers were poorly coordinated and seemed to be unprepared for this "grand" unveiling, the features of 4th aren't really that exciting. There are plenty of computerized game enhancers on the market already that do not require a subscription. Wizards has decided to turn evrything digital, from magazines to minis?!?! Finally, if it is still D20 (which is a good decision, I think), then all they did was scrap silly and cumbersome rules and mechanics...which many DM's have ALREADY done in their home games. Bummer! :?

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:12 pm 
 

And that shows the almighty rules in their glory... how? Seems the playtesters didn't even wan tto know what the rules are.... Yay! A game so shitty that even those paid to play it refuse to do so! WOOHOO!!! LET ME IN!


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:16 pm 
 

- Thus your head being upside down  :wink:
world is upsidedown + goats rule it appears
could do inverted gleemax but might upset g026r more than stealing icon :) :)

- Basic rules of magazines and newspapers.  Use fonts which are easy for the human eye to read and shorter columns are better as wider columns make the eye work harder.[/quote]
does not seem to help that new bold font still with lower case u does not fit well with remaining old style sheet to my eyes. will that change before 4.5e??

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:29 pm 
 

- I just watched the three videos produced during the unveiling of 4th.
comment on 1st vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_e5wAUwdmM = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbqMoEwDqc same??
The DMG comes out TWO MONTHS after the PHB????? WTF?
:lol: :lol: impatient kids nowadays
vid seems to say 1e is fine if can tell clothespeg from eraser but 3e sucks bogged down in books. good way to sell current stock + MM V :lol: :lol:

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:42 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:- I just watched the three videos produced during the unveiling of 4th.
comment on 1st vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_e5wAUwdmM = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbqMoEwDqc same??
The DMG comes out TWO MONTHS after the PHB????? WTF?
:lol: :lol: impatient kids nowadays
vid seems to say 1e is fine if can tell clothespeg from eraser but 3e sucks bogged down in books. good way to sell current stock + MM V :lol: :lol:


So effectively at Gen Con they have done a Microsoft and launched Vaporware.

Here is our new Dragon Online mag ... sorry its not ready yet
Here is our new Dungoen Online mag ... sorry its not ready yet
Here is our new Online tabletop tools ... sorry its not ready yet, infact the site isn;t available right now it crashed.
Here is our new 4e players, monster and DM manuals ... sorry its not ready yet but will be JIT for the next Gen Con.

But don't worry we have this really cool brain that talks to you ....


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:43 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:-vid seems to say 1e is fine if can tell clothespeg from eraser but 3e sucks bogged down in books. good way to sell current stock + MM V :lol: :lol:


The funny thing is that you are absolutely 100% correct.  :lol:


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:45 pm 
 

since noone else commented here or other boards wotc props budget not enough to afford genuine d1 for 1978 clip in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_e5wAUwdmM at 36 seconds
maybe is roughed-up d1-2 from time machine ripping it back from future?? 8) 8)

  


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:47 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:since noone else commented here or other boards wotc props budget not enough to afford genuine d1 for 1978 clip in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_e5wAUwdmM at 36 seconds
maybe is tatty d1-2 from time machine ripping it back from future?? 8) 8)


The tried to win a legit D1, but they kept getting out bid by finoreddrale. :P


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:03 pm 
 

Agreed 100% here too.

The videos of '78 show a lively group of friends gathered around a table playing a wonderful game. Who cares about lint anyway? We had a smiley faced circular erasor that we always used for something or other.

From there on it just gets worse.

To the extent that the last video depicts gameplay as a table of computers displaying really bad computer game graphics (heck...there aren't even people shown!!?!?!).

It's almost as if they think the game needs to be re-invested in every couple of years as though it were a CCG or DDM.... :roll:  :evil:

(Oh, BTW...I thought that camping (or taking a break) when the cleric ran out of heal was PART OF THE VERY FABRIC OF GAMEPLAY as opposed to a hindrance. WE didn't camp or break. Rather, the DM would briefly (save an encounter) play out the night or respite, then we were back to play. 10 minutes, max)

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:51 am 
 

nevcoup wrote:(Oh, BTW...I thought that camping (or taking a break) when the cleric ran out of heal was PART OF THE VERY FABRIC OF GAMEPLAY as opposed to a hindrance. WE didn't camp or break. Rather, the DM would briefly (save an encounter) play out the night or respite, then we were back to play. 10 minutes, max)


But isn't gamining all about ...

And it was a fight! And . . . we won. Without really breaking a sweat, either, truth be told.


Winning lots of fights and cool magical stuff without breaking a sweat?  :roll:


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