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Post Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:36 am 
 

Hi All. My son is doing a high school project. For this project he has started a blog to discuss the topic of computer gaming becoming a 'sport'. He made a small survey and asked me to spread the word on filling it out. The link is in the latest post on his blog.

Professional Gaming as a Sport

Interesting topic really. I had no idea this eSports had become so big. The biggest tournament last year had a prize pool of over $18 million. Wonder if one day, D&D type computer games will enter the eSports world, with prize money. The mind boggles.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:28 pm 
 

There are two documentaries about this. The better of the two -- it's won a few awards, etc -- is called Rise of the eSports Hero, produced by Landrock Entertainment. Your son might be interested in checking out. landrockentertainment.com/rise-of-the-e ... ports-hero


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:16 am 
 

Thanks for the link. Very interesting. Much appreciated.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:49 am 
 

Tuned in for a few minutes of watching the Australian Open.  And WOW, Serena Williams is on some MASSIVE STEROIDS.  She could wrestle Jose Canseco to the ground with one (heavily muscled, veiny, bulging) arm.  

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:59 am 
 

Jon Peterson of Playing at the World fame uncovers one of the earliest instances of a fireball scroll penned by unknown wizard Leonard Platt. :)

Another great article from Jon's site:

A Precursor to the Chainmail Fantasy Supplement

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:36 am 
 

A wonderful piece from Jon.  To his work (to dig deep in search of the facts and truth), we continue to give thanks.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:40 am 
 

throwi wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:A wonderful piece from Jon.  To his work (to dig deep in search of the facts and truth), we continue to give thanks.


Looking at the accumulating posts on Jon's blog, it seems more & more like there needs to be a new edition. I mean, the world has discovered an author whose contribution appears perhaps as fundamental to the game as Arneson's, yet we've only become aware of his existence IN THE LAST FEW DAYS?!!!!

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:30 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Looking at the accumulating posts on Jon's blog, it seems more & more like there needs to be a new edition. I mean, the world has discovered an author whose contribution appears perhaps as fundamental to the game as Arneson's, yet we've only become aware of his existence IN THE LAST FEW DAYS?!!!!

Yeah, I get this a lot. Between this and the Mornard Fragments/Dalluhn alone you'd think there'd be a whole new story. Honestly, it is a constant source of relief to me that PatW is reasonably consistent with these discoveries, because it's pretty cautious about speculating beyond the documents I had on hand. So it's not like I feel there are glaring errors that need to be fixed, just more story to be told.

That much said, for various licensing reasons I will probably revise PatW in 2017. And given that opportunity, I would no doubt make some organizational changes and update it to reflect recent findings. You heard it here first.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:20 pm 
 

That sounds great Jon!  I have bought your book before it came out (so says my copy!) and I have enjoyed all the updates you post on the blog.  I want to humbly thank you for all your hard work and research that benefits us all as we learn from what you post and publish.  I look forward to see what stone you unearth and what new thing you posit about because it is very interesting and well written and thought provoking.  Great stuff, hopefully we can have a drink and catch up at Gary Con!  Again, heartfelt thanks for all you do for the early days history of our hobby.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:28 pm 
 

increment wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:make some organizational changes


In many ways it seems like a series of books rather than a single text. The overall chronological narrative (the evolution of RPGs from wargames) is repeated several times, making it difficult to remember where any particular detail is located.

The section on the early development of wargames presents an editorial dilemma. If the introduction were brief, followed by a narrative in consistently chronological order, readers would skip forward to the parts about D&D, & thus would lose focus on the overall idea of the book (how various elements of wargames contributed to RPGs). So I can see why you chose to make the introductory section so substantial - it explains why the early-wargaming section is significant.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:12 am 
 

sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:The section on the early development of wargames presents an editorial dilemma. If the introduction were brief, followed by a narrative in consistently chronological order, readers would skip forward to the parts about D&D, & thus would lose focus on the overall idea of the book (how various elements of wargames contributed to RPGs).

Presuming anyone is going to put their hand up and list a set of paradigms that together encompasses gaming which would nowadays be classified as "roleplaying"? :)

Good luck with that, not least that it was still "work in progress" beyond 1974/5/6.

It's certainly not just "how various elements of wargames contributed to RPGs" when totally new paradigms were key to a particular type of "RPG" being so successful (one reason why Arneson is still easy to underrate, IMO, as emphasis is more often placed on specific mechanics).

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:34 am 
 

To some degree, for my own book I have to keep my own counsel about the required narrative and the relationship between the subordinate topics, but David is asking the right questions here. One could say without doing great violence to my intentions that the overall argument of PatW was that the line between wargames and role-playing games is extremely difficult to draw, and certainly the publication of D&D did not automatically generate any genuine line. All of the tedious (I gather) kriegsspiele and so on is essential to showing that certain elements we might consider native to role-playing games were 150 years old when D&D came out. Organizationally, I might relocate elements, but I wouldn't dispense with them.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:32 pm 
 

increment wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:... but I wouldn't dispense with them.


It's not a matter of being tedious, it's a matter of marketing. The customer is likely buying the book for the D&D part. So dispense with, no, but it must explain to the reader why wargaming is relevant.

This is of course the approach you have taken with the current edition, to make Prelude to Adventure a substantial section. The point I was trying to make earlier is that there is no simple solution, that a strict chronological approach would create problems of its own. It is the nature of large works that every organizational strategy comes with advantages & disadvantages.

  

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sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:It's not a matter of being tedious, it's a matter of marketing. The customer is likely buying the book for the D&D part. So dispense with, no, but it must explain to the reader why wargaming is relevant.

That bit about "the line between wargames and role-playing games is extremely difficult to draw" not only needs to be in bold, underlined but the point also probably needs to be made/reiterated that game players are free to add or drop paradigms as they wish, by agreement.
It's perfectly possible to play D&D as a "wargame" and the rules even encourage that by offering character improvement via XPs for killing things but not for "roleplaying" (whether that be "problem solving", "playing in the role of the character", etc.). Conversely, in "traditional wargames" individual leader characters clearly had individual characterisation (player characters with a larger number of mostly grouped/ungrouped NPCs at their command, in effect) from fleeting glimpses of related "roleplaying" paradigms long before D&D (1940s BMSSJs refs., for a start) and were not for casual sacrificing, the way that some campaigns were played. To say nothing of Leiber and Fischer, or Barker and co., of course. :)

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:33 am 
 

faro wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:... game players are free to add or drop paradigms as they wish, by agreement. It's perfectly possible to play D&D as a "wargame"...


Which you write in present tense. Whenever an RPG is played, choices are made to strike a balance between the roleplaying & wargaming aspects. When a history of RPGs is written, choices are made to draw a distinction between roleplaying & wargaming. The readers of this history will tend to view it in light of their own present-day experiences.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:15 am 
 

Facebook buy/sell groups have become a Thing.

If you're not tracking that you're missing stuff.
Kudos to the Acaeum members who are all over it.

Congrats to Melnibonean for a wowie BIN grab yesterday. :)

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:28 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Facebook buy/sell groups have become a Thing.

If you're not tracking that you're missing stuff.
Kudos to the Acaeum members who are all over it.

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do you have any names of said groups so I and others can join up?


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webrik33 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:do you have any names of said groups so I and others can join up?


Here we go:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/RPGAuctions/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rolepla ... tradesell/

There's lots of RPG/D&D Facebook groups.  Here's another Facebook group for Gary Con.
https://www.facebook.com/GaryConLLC/
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