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Post Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:41 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Foul has locked a few threads over the years.  Self-policing only goes so far you know.

Completely off topic....how's this for some karma:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7053 ... e-say.html

Come for the story, stay for the mugshot.  :lol:


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:47 am 
 

ExTSR wrote:Interesting; I don't think I've ever seen a thread locked before, unless it was a spammer.


Probably for the best in this case. Any opinion against sounds monstrous, any opinion of support sounds like it's making fun of the situation.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:26 am 
 

Hi,

strange, altho its not exactly "normal" here in the UK, I think people are more accepting of it here.

Possibly because the Church of England is less extreme eg accepting of gay vicars; and our politics are generally more liberal. Possibly because of our great history of men crossdressing in comedy and on stage :)

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:43 am 
 

When it comes to colour, sexual orientation, etc. I don't think we have the level of bigotry they have in the US, because our population is not subjected to the levels of bigotry in the media that US citizens are. If you grow up in a country where everyone is allowed to portray hatred on TV and in the press, and campaign hatred of others in the streets (under the guise of freedom of speech), then hatred of blacks/gays/jews is accepted as a normal part of life. Whilst the highly educated can strive to see through the BS and propaganda in their country's media, it remains as 'normal' to them even though they do not prescribe to, or identify with those beliefs.

We have the same thing in the UK with the class system, and our media, politicians, celebrities and press all feed off the class divide, highlighting the conflicts and fostering hatred. In reality, the lazy working class sponger or the greedy selfish public sector worker is as rare in the UK as I'd imagine the neo-nazi fascist or the brainwashed mentally challenged god-botherer is in the US.

Society shapes the environment they wish to bring thier children up in. The only people who are at fault if we find ourselves living in a sh'ty country are our parents for having let it get that way.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:32 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:When it comes to colour, sexual orientation, etc. I don't think we have the level of bigotry they have in the US, because our population is not subjected to the levels of bigotry in the media that US citizens are. If you grow up in a country where everyone is allowed to portray hatred on TV and in the press, and campaign hatred of others in the streets (under the guise of freedom of speech), then hatred of blacks/gays/jews is accepted as a normal part of life. Whilst the highly educated can strive to see through the BS and propaganda in their country's media, it remains as 'normal' to them even though they do not prescribe to, or identify with those beliefs.

We have the same thing in the UK with the class system, and our media, politicians, celebrities and press all feed off the class divide, highlighting the conflicts and fostering hatred. In reality, the lazy working class sponger or the greedy selfish public sector worker is as rare in the UK as I'd imagine the neo-nazi fascist or the brainwashed mentally challenged god-botherer is in the US.

Society shapes the environment they wish to bring thier children up in. The only people who are at fault if we find ourselves living in a sh'ty country are our parents for having let it get that way.



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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:40 am 
 

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:11 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:13 pm 
 

Everybody should be like me, not a single dose of prejudice or animosity  :lol:

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:45 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:It's also a shame that the parents and friends of the murdered girl don't have the clearest idea of who is to blame for her death as they grieve losing her.  Sad. :cry:


In point of fact, we've known from the beginning...really without a doubt...who the killer was.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:52 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:A damning indictment of the entire Amanda Knox Italian trial fiasco, by the appellate court and judge that eventually set her free:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/1 ... 50932.html

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Thanks for the link, Mike.  This paragraph alone restores my faith that there is someone in Italy who prefers truth over prejudice:

The guilty verdict "was not corroborated by any objective element of evidence and in itself was not, in fact, probable: the sudden choice of two young people, good and open to other people, to do evil for evil's sake, just like that, without another reason," wrote presiding Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellmann.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:11 pm 
 

So, are the findings available to the public? Does Italy have such a thing? Can people read the findings? Or just the press releases?

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:14 pm 
 

Yes, the US is an awful place!  I'm afraid to go outside unarmed most days, what with all the hatred and bigotry I'm surrounded with.  Yes...It positively RAINS hatred and bigotry here every hour of every day.  Match that with all the crime and "income inequality" and "social injustice"  and I'm terrified to leave the house anymore, lest I be bombarded with propaganda.  Maybe if I wear dark clothes and RUN as fast as I can through the wastelands of racial and economic strife,   I just may make it unscathed through the protests and gunfire to my local airport and catch a crowded plane full of desperate fellow refugees looking to escape to the blessed shores of Brittania, that wondrous land unsullied by American AWFULNESS  blah blah blah hyper hyped-up anti-US hyperbolic hyperbole blah blah blah....

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:57 pm 
 

*what fun!*

Of course, what I like most about the United States is all the running gun battles between the white supremacists, the Black Panthers, the Branch Davidians, the Simbianese Liberation Army, the Presbyterians, the Cornhuskers and the remnants of the Bader-Meinhoff Gang.

Most of what I know about life in Britain comes from Brit-coms, Torchwood and Doctor Who on BBC America, so I figure my knowledge of both the US and the UK is roughly on a par with anyone here.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:01 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:Most of what I know about life in Britain comes from Brit-coms, Torchwood and Doctor Who on BBC America, so I figure my knowledge of both the US and the UK is roughly on a par with anyone here.


Me, too. What this does prove in any case, is that as bad as American television has become, British tv is still worse. Imagine what we DON'T see on BBC America! Then again, I wouldn't want CBS aired overseas..


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:13 pm 
 

Agent Cooper wrote:Yes, the US is an awful place!  I'm afraid to go outside unarmed most days, what with all the hatred and bigotry I'm surrounded with.  Yes...It positively RAINS hatred and bigotry here every hour of every day.  Match that with all the crime and "income inequality" and "social injustice"  and I'm terrified to leave the house anymore, lest I be bombarded with propaganda.  Maybe if I wear dark clothes and RUN as fast as I can through the wastelands of racial and economic strife,   I just may make it unscathed through the protests and gunfire to my local airport and catch a crowded plane full of desperate fellow refugees looking to escape to the blessed shores of Brittania, that wondrous land unsullied by American AWFULNESS  blah blah blah hyper hyped-up anti-US hyperbolic hyperbole blah blah blah....

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MetamorphosisSigma wrote:Then again, I wouldn't want CBS aired overseas..

Sadly, it is pumped freely into homes in Britain in half a dozen different variations on the channel 24/7.

Versimilitude wrote:Strange, altho its not exactly "normal" here in the UK, I think people are more accepting of it here..

I was actually referring to the comments by FM on the locking of another thread, and the remark that in th UK we do not respond so vehemently towards people who express a different value system when it comes to their sexual preference or gender. The religious indoctrination does not exist to the same extent here in the UK, but we have a greater class divide, and on both sides of the Atlantic these differences are exploited by the media with the intent of promoting intolerance and hatred. It appears to have been a fear that that was where the other thread was headed that resulted in it's lockdown. Is that sort of feeling a touchy subject? It would appear so.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:23 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Sadly, it is pumped freely into homes in Britain in half a dozen different variations on the channel 24/7.


On behalf of all of us, I apologize. The Good Wife isn't half bad, but it doesn't come close to making up for the rest CBS's lineup.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:29 pm 
 

That's okay. We gave you Piers Morgan, Big Brother and Susan Boyle. Not exactly ambassadors of culture.
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:34 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:That's okay. We gave you Piers Morgan, Big Brother and Susan Boyle. Not exactly ambassadors of culture.
Asking Piers Morgan to judge a talent contest is akin to asking Ray Charles to judge a beauty contest.


That sir, is the best thing I've read on the internet today.  Well played.


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