Kingofpain89 wrote:Definitely nothing wrong with Mossberg. I was looking at a Benelli model due to the fantastic reviews they get. A friend of mine that is a gun collector and hunter asked me "Why in the world would you buy a Benelli for home defense?" He told me to just buy a cheapo if that was all I was going to use it for. So Mossberg may be the brand I eventually buy. Half the price of the cheapest Benelli.But man those Benelli's sure are nice.
Kingofpain89 wrote:Yep....Clay Bennett, the owner of the Sonics, is a complete dirtbag (at least according to just about every morning radio show host that I listen to). He has been planning to move the Sonics ever since he bought the team, although he denies it. I just cant see OK City being able to support an NBA franchise long term. I guess if Portland can do it....
JZavoda wrote:I'd recommended a 20gauge short barrel pistol grip mossberg pump shotgun. You can also get non-lethal shot, but if you need to use a gun I feel it is best to have something with some lethality.There is a 20 and 12 gauge mossberg that comes with a long and short barrel and a pistol grip and shoulder stock so that you can use it for hunting or home defense.The best things about a shotgun sre that you are less concerned with accuracy, it's intimidation factor is very high, and depending on the type of shot, its penetration factor is low so you don't have to worry about hitting someone in the next room, or house. With the pistol grip and short barrel it is perfect for room to room. It is one of the three firearms that everyone should own.Shotgun. Assault Rifle. A rifle designed for long range and a decent scope.
JZavoda wrote:It amazes me how people making TV and movies seem to have no idea about the USA, such as the size of the country, what 'millions' really means, or how freaken well-armed the population is. This can be seen most readily in Zombie Movies.One of the comments in Diary of the Dead was that there were more Zombies than bullets. I was reading that there are over 2 billion registered weapons in the USA. When they remade Dawn of the Dead they made it seem like no one had guns. One guy in the beginning of the picture with a handgun. Of course guns and cell phones make for poor horror movies, so they get rid of them, but I think it is a real misunderstanding of what the USA is truly like. What these rich filmakers see and what people outside the USA see is some strange distortion of what really exists. A country made of of New York, Texas and California, with a ghetto section and upper class suberbs, and nothing else.Good zombie flicks need to be filmed in England. (though the sequel to 28 days later made no sense, heavy machine guns/unarmed crowds, the machine guns will always win). An unarmed population, a mostly unarmed police force, and a small military, perfect zombie fodder.
Badmike wrote:The Mossberg has intrigued me. I am worried about penetration factor if I had to blow away a punk, nowadays houses are so close and walls are so thin, I'd hate for a .38 shot to go through the bad guy and punch out my neighbor's window...or my neighbor, for that matter! I do use hollow point though so theoretically it should penetrate much past putting a gigantic hole in the perps back...but still....I'm going to give one of these a look.Mike B.
Badmike wrote: Hell, I bet we have enough firepower in my small town alone to put down a zombie uprising in 24 hours....but then again, end of movie, nothing interesting about that.
Grug Greyskin wrote:Give some credit to George Romero's original Dawn of the Dead (from 1978), which did have a scene where some Pennsylvania good ole boys were out in force taking down zombies, with some beer drinking mixed in. Zombies, guns and alcohol - that's the triangle of fun!
JZavoda wrote:One of the comments in Diary of the Dead was that there were more Zombies than bullets.
FormCritic wrote:In a movie, bullets are always extremely limited and characters throw down their guns if they jam or run out of shots.Real gun owners generally have several hundred rounds of ammo on their shelves...often over 1000 if they own several calibers of gun. Even if all the neighbors on my street and the nearby streets were to go zombie in some sort of plague...we've got enough bullets of various calibers to handle them..22 long rifle ammo, for instance, comes in bricks of 500. .22 rounds would probably take down a zombie with headshot...and after-market box magazines can be loaded with 200 rounds.No one throws away a gun when it is empty. They get more bullets.In Jurrasic Park, the paleontologist guy throws down his shotgun because a shell stovepipes. Rather than just pull out the shell, his plan is to climb up into the false ceiling. Yeah. Right. Of course, this is the same movie where the big game hunter decides that the key thing to do when confronted by a velociraptor is to pull down the stock on his automatic shotgun. And, he chooses an automatic shotgun over an M16.Jurrasic Park II is the movie where a platoon of soldiers, amed with assault rifles, screams and runs when confronted by a tyrranosaurus rex. Every soldier I know laughed at the ludicrous idea that soldiers wouldn't just light the T-rex up en mass.And, by the way, a Mossberg 500 Persuader, loaded with 5 shells...even birdshot...is a truly frightening thing to carry. The lethal weight of such a weapon in my hands makes me nervous. It just screams, I am not a toy! I cannot see an intruder choosing to face one rather than just run away.
a guy taking a bullet in the shoulder and shrugging it off
FormCritic wrote:In a movie, bullets are always extremely limited and characters throw down their guns if they jam or run out of shots.Real gun owners generally have several hundred rounds of ammo on their shelves...often over 1000 if they own several calibers of gun. Even if all the neighbors on my street and the nearby streets were to go zombie in some sort of plague...we've got enough bullets of various calibers to handle them..22 long rifle ammo, for instance, comes in bricks of 500. .22 rounds would probably take down a zombie with headshot...and after-market box magazines can be loaded with 200 rounds.No one throws away a gun when it is empty. They get more bullets.In Jurrasic Park, the paleontologist guy throws down his shotgun because a shell stovepipes. Rather than just pull out the shell, his plan is to climb up into the false ceiling. Yeah. Right. Of course, this is the same movie where the big game hunter decides that the key thing to do when confronted by a velociraptor is to pull down the stock on his automatic shotgun. And, he chooses an automatic shotgun over an M16.Jurrasic Park II is the movie where a platoon of soldiers, amed with assault rifles, screams and runs when confronted by a tyrranosaurus rex. Every soldier I know laughed at the ludicrous idea that soldiers wouldn't just light the T-rex up en mass.
Badmike wrote:Well, it's a message from gun-hating Hollywood "Guns can't protect you!" So they deliberately show this, making it a self-fufilling prophecy. Meanwhile those of us in the real world just roll our eyes.... I may be the only one that thinks the Jurassic Park movies, the entire bunch of them, are crap. I feel like I'm watching an "A-Team" episode or something, the way these bumbling humans seemingly can't kill a SINGLE dino in the entire trilogy except by accident. By that logic, a bunch of cavemen with clubs suddenly appearing in our midst would destroy modern society because their ferocity and savagery would be superior to our intelligence and technology.....Mike B.
Kingofpain89 wrote:Well if anyone wants to see a "fun" movie full of ass-kicking gun battles, take the time to go see Wanted. I heard some so-so reviews of it and thought it would end up being a rental, but my wife really wanted to see it....and I am glad we did. And seeing Angelina Jolie's naked backside didnt hurt none either.
