I was under the impression that paying up front was the way it was going to done from the beginning.
Once the artists costs, printing company, printing costs, and shipping costs (All the costs) were known and the work was completed by Erol Otis that is.
That said, put me on a list or something.
I want five (yes 5) copies
BTW.
Where was that Orange
B3 again?
Some here know that I can and will commit funds for projects and I am seldom hesitant about doing so.
(Read the above-mentioned
RJK thread, though you should set aside some time).
As opposed to the
RJK situation; being kept in the dark is NOT an issue here as the EO committee has been standing by (from the beginning) ready to answer any valid concerns and they will continue to do so throughout this project, of that no one need be concerned.
Besides, I know where most of those guys live…
(
) that was a jest guys.
As for me, Money was NOT the reason I removed my name from the Elite 50 list.
Nor was there a concern (on my part) regarding the EO committee members, or worries about whether the project would be completed.
There was of course no BRIBE from someone on the outside looking in with a fistful of money and even more envy.
Nor was there some Elite 50 insider, looking to score another copy for the vault.
And it was most certainly not because I was concerned that my investment might be for naught.
I would be willing to invest a hell of a lot more than $50 on a Signed EO Print.
I am one of those who felt (From the start) that printing 75 rather than 50 copies would not destroy anyone's ability to call their EO print a Rare Collectable and a Treasure to be held in highest regard.
That is the only reason that some members here have urged (and some even demand) that the number of copies of the EO Prints be held at 50 copies and no more.
The difference between 50 and 75 copies of any collectable rarity in ANY form of collectables is such a non-starter issue and such a bad argument as to make the person(s) arguing from that standpoint
appear to be self serving, stubborn, and perhaps even a bit hateful.
Others have stated that there is a (realistic) concern that a few folks will back out for various reasons.
OK; lets suppose that another half dozen members (or ten for that matter) will back out after the order has been placed and the money is due.
First off, some members have stated that they will help (with funding) if that becomes an issue (As would I, though I honestly doubt it would be a concern).
How many here would jump on a chance at buying TWO or even THREE copies?
How long do you think it would take Mike to sell a few extra copies on E-Bay?
A starting bid of whatever the cost was, plus Shipping etc.
Sheese, they would be gone in one week of listings.
It is an original VERY LIMITED SIGNED Print by Erol Otis.
No matter that the piece has a blurb someplace on it with the word Acaeum……
Art lovers could care less.
True fans of Erol Otis's work will not care at all, and some might not even notice it (perhaps none outside this forum).
I suspect even I could easily sell at least a half dozen Prints inside and outside this forum.
(although it would take me longer of course)
Again the money must be attained up front.... before printing.
Yeah, and several members here would happily offer up the money to fund any and all unspoken for copies.
I would be among them.
(Please limit my funding to 5 copies though; I still haven't dug out that Orange
B3)
As has been said (in this thread and others) more than once, the only other easily discussed argument is that of Badmikes unenviable task and vital responsibility as the shipping center for the finished art piece.
Easy for us anyway, not so sure about Mike though.
But, Mike is an E-Bay Store Owner and re-seller.
It is how he makes his living, and he has been doing that for MANY years.
Shipping out 75, as opposed to 50 individual mailings seems like no huge difference to me, except for the obvious difference in time and effort.
Plus there are those here who have offered help with the mailings, and there are several other members here who would volunteer time and effort in a heartbeat second to help him with that.
I would and I live close enough to actually do so at his place.
Sorry Mike, as you and many here know, I say what I think.
And sometimes post before thinking.
Some concern has also been stated about possible lost or damaged pieces.
This one is (
IMO) the most legitimate reason for limiting the number of prints, yet still I think not enough to limit it to 50 rather than 75 copies.
IMO (spoken as a buyer rather than as a seller) the risks are not THAT much greater.
Those of us who purchase collectables that must then be shipped; KNOW fully well that there are risks for anything you purchase no matter where or how far that package travels.
There is a VERY good chance that your shipment gets to you.
There is however, a slight risk of one or two things going badly.
Damage or a complete loss of the package.
I am assuming Mike will insist on Insurance and some form of tracking for each package, perhaps a signature confirmation as well.
(I certainly would)
Therefore; that argument is also a non-starter
IMO.
As some have said (From BOTH sides of this discussion) it is ONLY $50 BUCKS!
Your investment vs risk is still next to nothing.
And it is in fact going to be a wonderful piece of artwork.
There are also the printing issues, of which I shant speak to, since I have no clue.
How much more time and trouble (and/or Expense) is it to print 75 vs 50 copies?
The EO committee knows and are/have researched that issue for hundreds of hours.
They know what is what with those concerns.
This will not be my last post to this thread.
(Unless
Foul deletes the thread, or I get booted off, the last being more likely)
In the first place, I do believe the Artists work has not yet been completed (Perhaps not even started).
After that?
.... It's a LONG time before winter guys and the order for copies (as far as I know) has not been placed yet either.
I shall fight on!
(Not literally)
