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Post Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:25 am 
 

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Did "she" also have a recent sex change?  Looks like a dude in the photos.  :lol:

I took that to be an indicator of the bars the author hangs out it in. I couldn't decide on what sex the author was based on the info it presents, so I stuck to refering to it as the author. It doesn't really matter. You can only reprint the contents of sites like this so far, before realising you have to do something else to not be seen as selling other peoples' research and content. Then you either have to do some work, or sit on your arse and invent history (or both) and get your friends to blow you online, in order to make a buck at the expense of the buying community. My new book, "Jackson, Jobs' Secret Advisor" will demonstarte the principle quite well. Might as well jump on the bandwagon while it's rolling through Cupertino. They met in college you know. Michaul saw the child in everyone.


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Post Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:36 pm 
 

I will reserve my opinion until I know more about this book.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:07 am 
 

I was inteested in picking up Designers & Dragons (awful title IMO).  I had read Shannon Appelcine's column on RPG.net http://www.rpg.net/columns/list-column. ... iefhistory and had generally enjoyed the articles.

However i was out off by the price.  Now the reviews dn't seem to be that kind I'm not sure if I should get it.

Does it cover Games Workshop?

  

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:21 am 
 

Sardan wrote:Does it cover Games Workshop?

There is a preview here which shows the table of contents:
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpgs/ ... agons.html

Games Workshop is covered but who knows how much information, factual or otherwise, is actually there.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:11 am 
 

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:10 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Games Workshop is covered but who knows how much information, factual or otherwise, is actually there.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I'm sure it will have been tackled with the same level of imagination as the rest of the book.

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:29 pm 
 

Ian, i can only assume that the Palantir that you have found must be a master stone, because only the most powerful of the seeing-stones allows their users to comprehend the contents of tomes across oceans without ever even having to crack open their covers....

  

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:39 pm 
 

I've read enough of Appelcline's previous work and published preview to see that there is very little corroberated 'fact' in anyhting (s)he writes, and no intent by the auther ever to attempt to corroberate any of what (s)he presents as 'fact'. It seems sufficient in the author's opinion, that if (s)he considers it to be fact, and records it so, then it becomes fact.

I do realise this is a fantasy game we are talking about here, and that the author should be permitted to fantasize and romantisize the past to a certain degree. But speculating and just making stuff up and then reporting it to the world as fact, wthout any form or evidence; or ignoring actual facts because they ruin your story or conflict with what you want to be 'fact', with no explanation or attenpt to back up your fantasy with evidence? It ia a means of just standing back and pissing on us all.

But it might sell a book, so who gives a F is its accurate or not? Certainly not the author. I'll have the PDF in a week or so, and I'll certainly be comparing its' 'factual accuracy' to Appelcline's previous standards to see if (s)he's maintained the same level of diligence, or in fact learnt the difference between 'fact' and 'fiction'.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:40 pm 
 

This article in the Wall Street Journal fascinates and repels me:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 09140.html

I do have a few questions and observations:

It reads like a particularly well written article in The Onion, except, sadly, it's true;

Now even D&D players have someone we can look down on and bully, as they are obviously less manly than we;

I dispute the line "the overwhelming majority are straight".  I don't even know how the rep said that with a straight face;

If these guys were halfway intelligent they'd ditch the Pretty Pony thing and start going to Anime cons, which is hot chick central these days, but I suspect actually speaking to a girl is quite a different experience to these gents from collecting girl toys;

They can get 300 people to show up for their BronyCon and the NTRPG con only gets 120???

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:17 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:This article in the Wall Street Journal fascinates and repels me:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 09140.html

I do have a few questions and observations:

It reads like a particularly well written article in The Onion, except, sadly, it's true;

Now even D&D players have someone we can look down on and bully, as they are obviously less manly than we;

I dispute the line "the overwhelming majority are straight".  I don't even know how the rep said that with a straight face;

If these guys were halfway intelligent they'd ditch the Pretty Pony thing and start going to Anime cons, which is hot chick central these days, but I suspect actually speaking to a girl is quite a different experience to these gents from collecting girl toys;

They can get 300 people to show up for their BronyCon and the NTRPG con only gets 120???

Mike B.

This has got to be a Jersey thing.  These "Bronies" are probably nothing more than "guido" rejects.  They either didnt have the muscle development or were allergic to hair gel and spray on tan so they decided to form their own group.  They make furries seem almost normal.  8O

Now if someone formed their own cult based off Thundarr the Barbarian and went around yelling "demon dogs!" and "lords of light!", I'd be right there with 'em wearing nothing but a fur pelt.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:09 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:This article in the Wall Street Journal fascinates and repels me:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 09140.html

Yeah, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic blew up big in 2011.

If these guys were halfway intelligent they'd ditch the Pretty Pony thing and start going to Anime cons, which is hot chick central these days, but I suspect actually speaking to a girl is quite a different experience to these gents from collecting girl toys;

Anime fandom was not full of hot girlies in the 80s.  Twenty years on, and chicks dig anime.  If MLP:FIM has staying power, then the bronies will be surround by girlies in a few years.

They can get 300 people to show up for their BronyCon and the NTRPG con only gets 120???

I attending a gaming convention in 2011 that had a room dedicated to showing MLP:FIM.  I watched about five minutes and was entertained if a bit annoyed by having no idea what was happening.  The animation was crisp, fast, colorful, and cute.  The dialogue was also snappy.  Hmmm . . . wonder how much of that stuff is collectible . . .  :D

  


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:02 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:I attending a gaming convention in 2011 that had a room dedicated to showing MLP:FIM. I watched about five minutes and was entertained if a bit annoyed by having no idea what was happening.


So it's official. We are now so advanced in age that the culture of young people is no longer just alienating, but completely mystifying as well.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:58 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:I attending a gaming convention in 2011 that had a room dedicated to showing MLP:FIM.  I watched about five minutes and was entertained if a bit annoyed by having no idea what was happening.  The animation was crisp, fast, colorful, and cute.  The dialogue was also snappy.  Hmmm . . . wonder how much of that stuff is collectible . . .  :D


Was your gaydar going off?  Or is this simply as Sauro says, so completely alien to our old guy mindsets that being a "brony" is actually a chick magnet?

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:53 pm 
 

Eh? What's that, sonny? Why in my day, we played real wargames with sandtables like you're supposed to. Real hand-cast miniatures, too. You need another 15mm regiment of Pomeranian light infantry in full parade dress, you just cup your hand into the right shape while your buddy just pours the hot lead right on in. That's how tough we were. Any of them fantasy kids show up wanting to "role-play" at being elves & fairies, we would throw HO-scale track at them. What's that? That's not what you said? Something about a pony?

  

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:23 am 
 

Pretty cool:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45226591/

I guess personal cloaking devices are still a ways off though.  It would be kinda pointless to start outfitting people with them until they find a way to keep them from burning your skin off.  You might be invisible to the naked eye but if your enemies can hear you screaming in pain, what's the point?  :lol:


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:02 pm 
 

Did Italy and Greece just give up their democracies and put in a dictator?
I can't believe that's even legal in developed countries.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:17 pm 
 

rhynne wrote:
Hey Jason,

Thanks for the recommendations. I was not familiar with the Van Vogt or Sturgeon. I had forgotten about Clifford D Simak. :)

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If you've ever enjoyed Star Trek and other successful science fiction TV series then it is worth reading his material.
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The Voyage of the Space Beagle is a classic, and is based on one of Van Vogt's short stories "Black Destroyer".  
You will recognize the antagonist  8)

Harlan Ellison has even said that Van Vogt and Ray Bradbury are the very best of the best of science fiction writers.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:34 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:Aldarron (Dragons at Dawn) points out some factual errors in the preview sample in this blog post:
http://boggswood.blogspot.com/2011/11/d ... -4995.html [snip]

I've come across their well-done magazine indices (credited to "Shannon Appel") in the past, for Different Worlds etc.
http://www.erzo.org/shannon/gaming/indices/


Same person:  when Shannon married his wife, they combined their surnames.  Some further discussion and replies from Shannon @ http://odd74.proboards.com/index.cgi?bo ... hread=6500


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