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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:32 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:The Wiki page is about to be deleted ... it's good to know they're not completely useless over there.

That should just about take care of this scam, which is looking more and more like an attempt to provide two reputable links (here and the Wiki) for an eBay auction. One potential source, though, is practically rolling on the floor with laughter; the other is about to delete the relevant page.

Game over.


Again ... why?

Any idiot with a typewriter could have submitted any amount of drivel to TSR (actually, I'd guess many of the real bozos didn't even bother to type). Why is this of any interest to collectors?

I'd pay a few bucks for a TSR rejection letter, provided it was signed and not just a form letter ... I'd do it just for the curiosity factor. But as for the actual crap being rejected? I already get a great deal on toilet paper at Costco, thanks just the same.

Hmm...scam?  Yep...sure is.

BUT...there are ways to squash this bug.  Perhaps we can compare the IP of atari (dude, shame on you for stealing the name of a great game system and infesting this board with total crap!) and the originator of the entry.

*checks my other options*

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:40 pm 
 

Traveller wrote:Hmm...scam?  Yep...sure is.

BUT...there are ways to squash this bug.  Perhaps we can compare the IP of atari (dude, shame on you for stealing the name of a great game system and infesting this board with total crap!) and the originator of the entry.

*checks my other options*

Ahh yes...editing is a wonderful thing.


Let me be the one who puts tha hammer down on this bug for good.  Our poster here atari originally signed up as ataricharles, then changed his name two time first to mercgray and then to atari.  I did a google search on atari charles and came up with this:

http://www.youtube.com/ataricharles

Canada.  Then looking a the editing page of Wiki an edit without a User ID was made with this IP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Co ... .34.80.165

After doing a Whois search:

http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=156.34.80.165

Strangely enough it came up from a Canadian IP.   :lol:   Dude, next time remember to log in and you'll make it a lot harder to track you.  I was a bit perplexed on the 2nd Canadian IP edit, but now I know that was the Goat.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:42 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Canada.  Then looking a the editing page of Wiki an edit without a User ID was made with this IP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Co ... .34.80.165


That one's me as well. ;)


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:44 pm 
 

g026r wrote:
That one's me as well. ;)


Ahh, you are killing me.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:44 pm 
 

Traveller wrote:Ahh yes...editing is a wonderful thing.

"As a fan produced work, The Realm of No has no value."

Nice!  :)

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:48 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Ahh, you are killing me.


I really should remember to login there, but I can't be bothered to do so when all I generally do is tag stuff as needing sources or improvement. :)


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:52 pm 
 

I have a cookie set that keeps me logged in.



  


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:01 pm 
 

FWIW, here is ataricharles on Ebay:



http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:38 pm 
 

Good work sherlock.

http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=156.34.80.165

OrgName:    Bell Aliant
OrgID:      ALIANT
Address:    1 Brunswick Square
Address:    BS-6
City:       Saint John
StateProv:  NB
PostalCode: E2L-4K2
Country:    CA

NetRange:   156.34.0.0 - 156.34.255.255
CIDR:       156.34.0.0/16
NetName:    ALIANT-TEL-156-34
NetHandle:  NET-156-34-0-0-1
Parent:     NET-156-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: OPAL.NBNET.NB.CA
NameServer: ONYX.NBNET.NB.CA
Comment:   
RegDate:    1994-03-08
Updated:    2002-12-17


But too bad that isn't me. Wrong end the continent.


I was curious about this module and it seems all I have gotten is bull from this forum under the guise of conspiracy theories.

I thought this was on odd but interesting module and joined up here hoping to find out more. Instead I got some interesting comments, no real info, and then the mud started slinging. and the conspiracy theories started.

Obviously for the most part it was useless to come here. Instead of finding out info on this module, there is a lot of rude behavior and conspiracy theories.

Good bye.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:05 pm 
 

atari wrote:I was curious about this module ...

Yes, you were. Very, very curious. Overly curious, some might say. Especially given your arrival here right after that joke on the Wiki went live. We are hardly the only collecting community that protects itself with a fair amount of skepticism ... especially when it comes to POS vapor-ware that about three people in the world have even heard of.

Here's a fair question, I think: do you really not see where this is nothing but a scam? I'll even assume, for the sake of argument, that you are in no way involved in the scam ... so, granting that, do you still not see the scam? The attempt, by some idiot out there, to link up with two credible sources for validation? The pathetic attempt to insert the alleged "value" of this item into the Wiki page?

The way I see it, you came looking for answers ... and you got them. Here they are again. Best case: it's one of about 10,000 rejected submissions to TSR that has no value to anyone except, possibly, its creator. Worst case: its memory has been resurrected in a blatant attempt to create value where none exists.

It's not our problem if those weren't the answers you were looking for.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:26 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:See ya.


Atari, even if your inquiry was an innocent as you say it was, you have to admit the timing of the inquiry and the placing of the wiki article are very suspicious. I'm usually the first one to give a newcomer asking questions a break...but in this case, the circumstances were simply too coincidental to overlook.

I'm sure the item exists...as several Acaeum members say they have one. I'm also as sure it's basically worthless...as it represents an unpublished product of questionable value.  I mean, had it been a 100 page manuscript of a fantasy world, with maps, made for 1st edition in 1985 and with a rejection cover letter from EGG or Frank, well that's a different story. Value in these sort of items is either implicit in the material, or it's not, and in this case it appears a shady attempt was made to drum up interest in an item for future sale (what I referred to as "The Long Con").  Whether you were a willing accomplice or not, it appears not to pass the smell test...

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:46 pm 
 

atari wrote:Good work sherlock.



This has already been established....but if you want I can get the appropriate info through Wiki if you want, all I have to do is ask....


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:48 pm 
 

and anyway...all this besides.....

what a stupid name for a module!

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:50 pm 
 

I wonder if thats were the Knights of Ni come from...


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:57 pm 
 

atari wrote:Good bye.

Good riddance.  Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya.



  


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:57 pm 
 

I am happy to try and post my copy so people can look at it if that would be of any use - but i have to find it first, and then i have to find someone who is computer literate to scan it and post it.
i think i can find someone to scan it for me, but i havent a clue about how to post anything anywhere!
apologies for almost being compeltely computer illiterate!

  


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:04 pm 
 

You can email it to me if you wish, and I can post it for you.

Send me a PM and I'll give you an address that it can be emailed to.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:36 am 
 

Badmike wrote:I'm usually the first one to give a newcomer asking questions a break...but in this case, the circumstances were simply too coincidental to overlook.


"there are no coincidences and there are no accidents"

quote by William S. Burroughs

:D

Sure are a lot of scammers out there, sheesh!!  $1000.00 for a few pages of crap!  Give me a break :evil:


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