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Post Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:54 pm 
 

BTW, what is "First Edition Advanced Game"?

Do you mean 1E AD&D?


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:50 am 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:BTW, what is "First Edition Advanced Game"?

Do you mean 1E AD&D?

Yes.  All of the retro-clones and simulacrum use similar terminology for their respective version of D&D.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:26 am 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:BTW, what is "First Edition Advanced Game"?

Do you mean 1E AD&D?


Still available at pacesettergames.com

Can't call anything AD&D so we use the next closest thing.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:29 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:
Still available at pacesettergames.com

Can't call anything AD&D so we use the next closest thing.


That makes sense, but you're not even allowed to say that a module is compatible with 1E AD&D?


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:03 am 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:
That makes sense, but you're not even allowed to say that a module is compatible with 1E AD&D?


Exactly. The use of the any TSR trademarks and copyrights is prohibited by law. Therefore, no D&D, Dungeons & Dragons, AD&D, Gamma World, Top Secret, etc. You get the idea.

Most Old School publishers have more or less started publishing for simulacrum systems like OSRIC (which is basically AD&D) or Swords & Wizardry (OD&D) or Labyrinth Lord (Basic/Expert).

Pacesetter modules generally adhere to AD&D or Basic/Expert game systems, though. However, a Swords & Wizardry project is in the works.

Pushing the envelope a bit further, sequels to B1 In Search of the Unkown and the A-series are currently in production. It is a minefield, but worth the effort.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:50 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:
sequels to B1 In Search of the Unkown and the A-series are currently in production. It is a minefield, but worth the effort.


Now that you can sign me up for now...  :wink:


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:15 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:
Exactly. The use of the any TSR trademarks and copyrights is prohibited by law. Therefore, no D&D, Dungeons & Dragons, AD&D, Gamma World, Top Secret, etc. You get the idea.



Interesting but puzzling.  

I could publish a book about Scrabble or Monopoly without
infringing on those copyrights, right?  
Why is publishing modules any  different?

And I'm not being argumentative (it's hard to convey tone of voice in a post).
I'm just curious.

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:30 pm 
 

The answer lies in your post. Writing a book about AD&D or TSR is fine. Writing a module using their trademarked game system is not. It may sound like a thin line, but in the publishing business it is a super highway of law.

Here is another way to look at. You have a great idea for a car. So you design your car but you have no way to get a powertrain for it. So you copy the best GM powertrain and build your car. On the outside, you car looks nothing like any GM on the road, but its guts are 100% GM. Guess who is gonna get sued off the planet?

Or lets say you want to make an expansion of Monopoly. Go ahead and try it without permission from Monopoly. You are lawyer-bait.

Your post was not argumentative in the least. People inside the publishing world get confused about copyright and trademarks all the time.


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Interesting but puzzling.  

I could publish a book about Scrabble or Monopoly without
infringing on those copyrights, right?  
Why is publishing modules any  different?

And I'm not being argumentative (it's hard to convey tone of voice in a post).
I'm just curious.

Thanks


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:08 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:Media mail would work just fine for me.  The couple extra days is really no big deal.  Media mail is pretty standard, really.


Ditto.  Got mine while I was in Haiti.  Appeared to have survived my mailman at first glance.  Can't wait to read them!  :D


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And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

New modules for your Old School game http://pacesettergames.com/

Everything Pacesetter at http://pacesettergames.blog.com/

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