Something you don't see every day....


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-SKA

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...another header module...now I know the world is ending.  


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-SKA

I agree with Bill when he says these modules are not a different print run at the same time i find it is also fair to consider these modules with the hanger a different product collecting-wise. Just like a softback and a hardback version of the same book: if these are rarer than the hangerless ones, it is rationale the higher price...
It should not be distant as a way of considering these similarly to the anniversary packs after all...

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:I realize my opinion will probably be in the minority, but I don't agree with the Acaeum decision to refer to header card items as necessarily a different printing. While it is in a different presentation, if the module prior is exactly the same as the module that was attached to a header card, that doesn't seem to me to be a different printing. I realize calling it a separate printing was perhaps the easiest nomenclature to use to differentiate it however. The byproduct has been that sellers try and get a x4 multiplier (on top of the "shrink" multiplier) as a "rare" printing.

I don't disagree with your commentary, but as you mentioned, this is what distinguishes the header version from the actually printing used for the header version.  In order to include these header versions in the list with the other printings, this seems to have been be a decent, albeit imperfect, compromise.

A possible solution?  The header printing variant could be renamed to the correct printing and appended with "+" or "Header", similar to other items with unusual printing circumstances.

An example would be:

B2 Keep on the Borderlands

Sixth:  TSR Face logo.  ISBN and Product Number stacked on back cover bottom left.  This print was also bundled with the Eleventh print of the D&D Basic Set.

Sixth - Header Version (1983):  Contents identical to Sixth, but has a red cardboard header stapled to the top of the module, with the D&D logo and some other advertising.  Note that this version was not sold bundled with a D&D Basic Set, but rather sold separately (and meant to be hung by the cardboard header on a rack).  The module itself, separated from the header, is indistinguishable from a Sixth printing (thanks to Adrian Newman for the scan).  This print is significantly rarer than all other prints of this module.  Further info on header modules is here.

OR

Sixth+ (1983):  Contents identical to Sixth, but has a red cardboard header stapled to the top of the module, with the D&D logo and some other advertising.  Note that this version was not sold bundled with a D&D Basic Set, but rather sold separately (and meant to be hung by the cardboard header on a rack).  The module itself, separated from the header, is indistinguishable from a Sixth printing (thanks to Adrian Newman for the scan).  This print is significantly rarer than all other prints of this module.  Further info on header modules is here.

Seventh (1999):  Has the TSR Silver logo on the bottom center.  The front covers of the exterior and interior booklets have been reconstituted by the TSR graphics department to be similar to the First print.  All other aspects of this module are otherwise identical to the Third print.  This print was available only within the limited-edition Silver Anniversary Collector's Edition released by TSR in 1999.  It did not come shrinkwrapped.  (Thanks to Michael Falconer for this info, and to Adrian Newman for the scan).

The subsequent prints could then be adjusted to accurately represent their printing in the sequence.

These changes would be fairly easy to update for the related modules.  There would be some additional cleanup needed on the Header Modules page too.

stratochamp wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:But the anniversary packs had their own distinct stock codes. So TSR felt they were a different product, which I suppose is where I draw a distinction.

Hello Bill, just to better understand: you are ref to the code of the pack, aren't you? Inside the pack the codes of the modules didn't change since it has not been done a specific print run for this purpose, is it correct? Iirc these packs were a good way to get rid of some stock exceedings...
You are right while writing there is a different code for the pack, and i should be right as well by saying there is not difference in code/printing for the single module within the pack... the product is distinct, the content is the same...

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...any comment on the identification of this 1st beta?

ExTSR wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:not eB, FB; worth noting tho

Tortured Souls #1-12, 1983-86
(Seller: Mark Poles)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/RPGAuct ... 732726542/

Sadly I don't have access to FB.
Is it just a set run of TS! 1-12, or does the seller have anything else from Beast Entz?