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Deadlord wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Historically speaking, the U.S. is prime for a civil war. All the indicators and causative factors are there.

I wont presume you mean that literally, but I have heard it and read it several times on different subs and. I dont assume you, or anyone, would actually want to see one. I always take it metaphorically.

However, we could not, would not, can not and wont have anything of the kind for a dozen rational, practical and logistical reasons. I think we have come about as far as possible with the "summer of love" and January 6th.  Which is to say, 120k people at a rally where several hundred people lost their damn minds and some cities, many dont care about, being all West-Coast-like.

Ill only cite one of the weakest reasons why. A fraction less than 120k, plus summer of love folks, divided by the 330 million in the US would care to participate; because things are incredibly good compared to all of human history, and compared to the reality for most of humanity now.

The Lewis Carroll type images of pristine Target-Shopping mini vans, pick-up trucks, Scooby-Do Vans/Van-living folks carting people around (lord knows the average person isnt marching more than 20 minutes after dinner) to where, to do what, stopping at gas stations along the way for snacks, would make the rest of the nation laugh itself into a coma. Is everyone getting hotels along the way? Sleeping outside is horrid regardless of weather. Literally 99.7% of us are too old, too young, dont care or would rather be at work on Monday. We got bills to pay, kids to feed, football season is starting and if someone feels as strongly as some do, they move. They move to Texas or the North Carolina or Florida. No one seems to be moving to CA or NY for some reason - odd.

Recall the tax rates of the late 60s (25%-70%, its half that now), the inflation, unemployment, interest rates, poverty, even the condition of Time Square in the 70s for goodness sake. Escape from New York was a movie. Remember Robo Cop? We all thought it was going that way. It just continued to get better.

The market could crash 50% next week, Biden could admit he was in on the deals with his son, but wasnt leaving office, and things would still be fine.

From 10 mins to 12 mins, this was considered a reformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZmZe7fe3E

wow , really hit someone's trigger there

sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
True, but you're talking about Americans themselves. Rebellions are not always authentically home-grown, but are sometimes created and financed by hostile foreign powers. In Syria, it has been claimed that workplaces were destroyed by arson in the early stages of the the civil war there, in order to remove ordinary people from the routine of their daily lives. What would it take here to accomplish the same?

Something more than the riots of the 60s and 70s? Because overall we are more wealthy, safe and overweight?

I cant recall a post I didnt write with a smile. Apologies if I sounded "Grrr" like or anything at any point.

Sir Kill Alot wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
NY sucks.  If there was ever a need for a Boston Tea Party type of action, it would be this state.  Talk about taxation without representation and the pillaging of the people by state/local government is insane.  As soon as the kids are done school (2 years) we are out of this shit hole.

-SKA

Folks on CBNC have defended NYC for years as the subject comes up, but they have changed their tone in the last year or so. They mentioned the Walgreens outside their window in time square is closed now, and apparently bike lanes are driving people mad?

Oh! Yea, large cities dying  and suburbs growing larger, and in number, is the way of the future. Its one of those things the movies always get wrong. Like in Back to the Future, flying cars, hoverboards but you still have payphones. We always pictured mega cities and all that goes with it, save for the fact of every stat that comes with wealthier nations for the last 200 years. Higher educated, fewer kids, larger living spaces in lower population densities, increased mobility, etc etc etc...It all points to less people living in cities because we can. Work from home is nitro in the tank btw.

benjoshua wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:You would think that gun deaths happen most often in NY the way they complain, but it appears to be worse in the deep south and wild west.  

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2/3 of "gun deaths" or "deaths by gun violence" are self inflicted. Keeping that in mind, I am sure the map would look somewhat similar by state, but not by city. Which is what matters, where people live and work. There would be little difference between St. Louis, Baltimore and Detroit, but a massive difference between St. Louis and some suburb 40 minutes away. Many major cities have the same approach to policies.

Both murder and suicide are bad to those who have lost someone.  

I was just trying to make the point that NY is actually safer than most people realize which is what was also somewhat communicated here:

sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread: California & New York have low gun violence & low suicide rates, so let's all move there.