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Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:57 am 
 

First time i spot this "bootleg" edition!


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...seller has the other boxes (ECM) on sale...

I wonder how did he "build" that hardback... It seems really a good job!


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:05 am 
 

It is permitted to print and sell any of TSR's products online. So more power to the people making as much money as they can off of WoTC's de facto relinquishing of their any IP claim they once had to TSR's product. Copyright theft cannot exist if the alleged 'theft' is something that is being given away freely and not in any manner protected. TSR's entire back catalogue is now effectively public domain property in every sense. I see nothing morally wrong with the selling of TSR PoD product or with the distribution of TSR PDFs. If the owner of the IP couldn't give a F, I don't see that I have the right to take a contrary moral stance?

To put it into perspective, if I spend 20 years of my life writing books, and the publisher bought the IP from me, or owned it by virtue of the contract of employment, and then chose to give away the IP to anyone who wanted to copy and print the works, I would have no right to object. I had made contract and taken my money. Likewise if I were an artist and saw my work plastered all over town on billboards, I have made my money and relinquished my rights.

WoTC's silence and inaction clearly signals the value they place on their historic IP. Who am I to argue with that valuation?


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:41 pm 
 

Picked up by Auction Hunter, but more appropriately belongs in this thread:
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:39 am 
 

This assortment of flyers might be interesting to those wanting to complete sets, assuming you can get around the high international postage:

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The flyer at bottom right of the auction illustrates a bellbottom-wearing character that probably inspired DCC's Hugh the Barbarian:
Hugh the Barbarian - Goodman Games
I have a copy of the flyer from an early-'90s basic set, but I've seen the illustration used elsewhere in TSR ads. Does anyone know where it was first published, & if the drawing has a title?

  

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:57 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:It is permitted to print and sell any of TSR's products online. So more power to the people making as much money as they can off of WoTC's de facto relinquishing of their any IP claim they once had to TSR's product. Copyright theft cannot exist if the alleged 'theft' is something that is being given away freely and not in any manner protected. TSR's entire back catalogue is now effectively public domain property in every sense. I see nothing morally wrong with the selling of TSR PoD product or with the distribution of TSR PDFs. If the owner of the IP couldn't give a F, I don't see that I have the right to take a contrary moral stance?

To put it into perspective, if I spend 20 years of my life writing books, and the publisher bought the IP from me, or owned it by virtue of the contract of employment, and then chose to give away the IP to anyone who wanted to copy and print the works, I would have no right to object. I had made contract and taken my money. Likewise if I were an artist and saw my work plastered all over town on billboards, I have made my money and relinquished my rights.

WoTC's silence and inaction clearly signals the value they place on their historic IP. Who am I to argue with that valuation?


Isn't selling PoD items the same as buying a gamebook from your FLGS and then selling it sometime later on the secondary market?



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Post Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:04 pm 
 

muaddib5 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Isn't selling PoD items the same as buying a gamebook from your FLGS and then selling it sometime later on the secondary market?


You're damn right it is!! Each consumer should buy another new copy of my product every time they want to read it. It's the only way I'll ever support my fantasies of being a big-time game publisher.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:16 am 
 

Das Grosse Buch!


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:29 am 
 

muaddib5 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:
Isn't selling PoD items the same as buying a gamebook from your FLGS and then selling it sometime later on the secondary market?

Only if they are bought legally from a licensed reseller and use their PoD option.
If the PDFs are downloaded from the internet and sent to a PoD publisher to create hardcopies, that is more akin to shoplifting from your FLGS and then fencing the selling your stolen goods on Craigslist.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:36 am 
 


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Nice get (for me) never had a chance to look at it as my silver box is still sealed. Very excited!

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:45 am 
 

shadeun wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:
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Nice get (for me) never had a chance to look at it as my silver box is still sealed. Very excited!


Wow!  That module now often sells for much more!  You got the deal of the month, possibly the year!  I have a sealed silver anniversary set as well, but ended up purchasing the Drive-Thru RPG version for about $11.00, including shipping!   8)


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:56 am 
 

Yes, the seller underpriced the BINs for almost everything they had listed.  This is an example of where the seller should have just done auction listings, and they probably would have made a lot more money.

Worked out for the buyers in this case!

Hopefully the seller will ship to other countries.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:59 am 
 

shadeun wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:
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Nice get (for me) never had a chance to look at it as my silver box is still sealed. Very excited!

Congratulations!


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:49 pm 
 

shadeun wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:
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Nice get (for me) never had a chance to look at it as my silver box is still sealed. Very excited!


Congrats.  That was a steal.

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:58 am 
 

That looks like a POD to me?



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Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:03 am 
 

nev wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:That looks like a POD to me?

Nope. I think its real.
There is no blurring of the yellow stipe and text in the top left hand corner which the PoDs have, and it carries the Silver Anniversary badge with I think the official PoD file did not contain.
It is a shame that the official PoD file was a manual scan and not a digital print file, otherwise we'd have a good quality PDF to go to for this product. All the PDF renditions I've seen for this are shockingly bad, and all the pictures I've seen for PoDs are equally bad.
I am assuming at some point there was an official PoD file released by WotC, because I couldn't see a home user creating a PDF and taking the time to digitally alter.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:43 am 
 

Theres a couple of POD up on Ebay right now. This one was missing the barcode & I PM'd the seller who said it wasn't.

Hasn't arrived yet but at that price its worth the punt. To be honest, even at POD at least i could have a copy to use/see if I so desired (rather than unshrinking).

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:02 am 
 

shadeun wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Theres a couple of POD up on Ebay right now. This one was missing the barcode & I PM'd the seller who said it wasn't.

Hasn't arrived yet but at that price its worth the punt. To be honest, even at POD at least i could have a copy to use/see if I so desired (rather than unshrinking).


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:09 am 
 


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I think someone was looking for these?


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