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Post Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:29 pm 
 

Here’s a novel solution. Each time someone buys a gun, they have to have a sponsor, and that sponsor warrants that if you commit a crime with your gun, they too will be held jointly and severally liable.

So if you trust your brother or your son, you act as his sponsor.

If a guy pulls a gun in a road rage incident, and loses his case, his sponsor stands to lose his house if the victim chooses to go after him instead.

And if you sponsor a kid who shoots up a school and then tops himself, you have a choice of life in prison or doing the same for being such a prick as to sponsor a mentally unstable person as a firearms owner.

You also then have a situation where you can go to the police and say you are withdrawing your sponsorship of this individual because he’s broken up with his wife and tattooed a static a on his cheek, and the Police are obliged to go and remove his weapons until he can convince someone he’s mentally stable again.

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But you can’t do that! You can’t ask someone to be willing to put their life or liberty on the line for their friend!

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Nothing will ever happen until something many magnitudes more unimaginable than a few dead children happens.

Maybe a group of mentally unstable incels with their own private chat room, execute a co-ordinated incident at multiple locations, to express their frustration and not getting laid. If people woke up to many hundreds of dead in and obviously planned and co-ordinated event, maybe society says this far and no further. Maybe they demand something other than a promise from social media providers to do better. How many dead children would be worth changing the way society is structured for?

There will always be those who say you can kill all the kids. It’s not my problem. I’ll protect mine. But isn’t, “I’ll protect mine, but I won’t protect yours”, the problem?

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I live in a country where children of certain demographics run feral in our towns and cities knifing each other. Do their parents care? Nope. They only care if it’s their kid in the casket. The fact that their kids carry knives is just part of being a kid to most of these single parent households. That’s the UK’s take on the dead children problem right now.

Does anyone care? Nope. Not my dead kid.
Does anyone prosecute the enablers? If a local shopkeeper didn’t supply the knife, then the parent did, or an online retailer did.
Does anyone care to stop the children getting knives or prosecute those giving knives to children? Nope. Not my dead kid.

But the press love it. It makes money. And kids buy more knives and retailers make money. And it keeps society fractured and in fear and focussed on what a certain demographic of society are doing and not on what the legislature are doing.

So everyone’s a winner! Except the dead children. But in the UK a lot of those were knife carriers anyways. They’re not exactly innocents. It’s mostly gangs self-censoring and keeping their own numbers in check.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:43 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:If they didn’t want mass shootings they wouldn’t have them.


When JFK signed the Mental Retardation Facilities and Community Health Centers Construction Act. (It turned out to be the last bill he would sign.) Under the 1963 law, he said, “custodial mental institutions” would be replaced by community mental-health centers, thus allowing patients to live—and get psychiatric care—in their communities.

Only a few were ever built.  So those individuals that needed the help had no where to turn.  Mental illness has been filling our jails.  Now with these bozo DAs and Governors emptying jails, or worse, not putting the criminals IN jail, one can do the math.  Its a joke, and sadly its killing people.  

Nobody wants mass shootings, but they are a byproduct of bad political decisions, bad parenting and breakdowns in policing.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:15 pm 
 

Lol. I didn’t know that.
We have our own version of that.

In 1993, the conservative government, (a little known grey beanpole PM called Major, with the same inferiority complex and accidental chance at power that Joseph Heller epitomised in Major Major Major Major, lead the government to enact Care in the Community, moving institutional care from purpose built (but expensive to maintain and staff) bricks and mortar institutions, into the council estates of the United Kingdom. In one fell swoop they set in motion the fastest increase in pedophilia, knife crime, substance abuse and anti-social behaviour in UK history.

Big crime spike, which, for the most part, is kept close to home among the types of people who like to live in such places. Beggars can’t be choosers and all that. These are the same communities who use the majority of the UK’s medical resources, the majority of the UK’s policing resources, and the majority of all financial welfare handouts. Council estates are our version of the Projects. Think sofas and old fridges in overgrown back gardens, burnt out automobiles, derelict land for drinking, and liberal tagging of walls and bus shelters. Very homely for those who feel warm and fuzzy in destitution.

I didn’t know the US enacted the same thing. I knew you let your citizens shit in the streets and decriminalised shoplifting, but I thought it was just overly liberal tree huggy Californians passing laws and then contaminating other Democratic states with their same mental disorders. I didn’t realise the give-a-retard-a-cuddle movement was an actual policy enacted by government... with the word ‘retard’ in the title.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:48 pm 
 

Different topic...

Energy.  In the UK we are pretending that natural gas prices have to go up (because Putin). They went up 53% plus tax in April, and they are going up another 40% or so in October, at which point they’ll decide whether or not they will have the next increase in January ‘23 or April ‘23.

Those on welfare will have their bills paid for them, so no biggie, and the rest of us have access to jumpers and blankets. So it’s not a crisis in the real sense of the word. It’s manufactured outrage to work the softer brains into a tizzy.

We know this, because instead of stockpiling gas at current prices ready for the winter, we are emptying our reserves and selling our stocks of natural gas to Europe so that they can stockpile at the current prices for winter.

Let’s keep that secret and not talk about that in the press.

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In the US they seem to be all worked up about oil. A country sitting on one of the largest oil reserves in the world. But let’s pretend none of that oil exists and one has to go begging to Saudi Arabia for oil, and that while authorising $40B in ‘aid’ to one side of the war effort, there isn’t a sly $53B being given to fund the other side of the war in exchange for oil.

It’s no biggie really because people just pay more for fuel and go to less ball games, movie theatres and bars. It’s manufactures scarcity, and I’m sure the press are diligent to point out how bad it is.

Yet the US government just sold 1 million barrels of the country’s strategic oil reserves to China.

Let’s keep that secret and not talk about that in the press.

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That’s a bit like pretending you’re starving and need to go to a food bank, and confessing that you own a chain of convenience stores that has decided to give away its produce for free.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:20 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Let’s keep that secret and not talk about that in the press.


That is why no one trusts media anymore...

https://www.freepressjournal.in/analysi ... l-time-low

An excerpt...

"While Nordic countries showed a relatively high rate of trust in news (just over 50 per cent), most other nations performed poorly.In the United States of America, trust levels were as low as 29 per cent. In India, trust in the media was 38 per cent, and in the United Kingdom, it was 36 per cent. All three are democracies that have faced intense political differences over the last two decades, and it is evident that the media has taken sides to such an extent, that the supporters on one side do not trust the media labelled as being on the other side."


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:25 pm 
 

Howdy, a serious question: is there anyone in contact with Gyg (aka Carl)? I am striving to reach him despite i know his email address... I didnt get any reply in the last months and ithis made me worrying.
Should anyone know him, plsnlet him have my message!
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Post Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:17 pm 
 

aia wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Howdy, a serious question: is there anyone in contact with Gyg (aka Carl)? I am striving to reach him despite i know his email address... I didnt get any reply in the last months and ithis made me worrying.
Should anyone know him, plsnlet him have my message!
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I’m pretty sure I have his address somewhere if you want to try snail mail.
That reminds me, I’ll ping you an e-mail on the morrow anyways.


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:23 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:I’m pretty sure I have his address somewhere if you want to try snail mail.
That reminds me, I’ll ping you an e-mail on the morrow anyways.


Hello Ian, thanks but i have his address and i wrote him several days ago... Not sure but more than a week. The fact that he didn't contact me even after the letter makes me a bit worried...


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:15 am 
 

Ian, oil is sold on the global market. That is why the whole idea of producing more in the US was a joke, as was releasing oil from the reserves. Buyden thought it would make it look like the gubmint was doing something about the prices. This is all in line with forcing people off oil, which I am just fine with. Notice how for years the flat-earthers were whining about the "global warming myth", and they've quieted down quite a bit. Only a fool would think you can dump trillions of tons of gases and particulates into the air and not have an effect.
Another never-mentioned aspect is brake pad dust and tire rubber. We burn through an insane amount annually; where do people THINK it all goes?
The damage to the environment is staggering; I've been watching it for 42 years. Between oil and coal, we'll be in a huge pickle within a decade. Some of you might know I raise local endangered reptiles and amphibians, so I'm out in the sticks from April to October every year, and the changes are not even subtle anymore.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:56 pm 
 

Deadlord wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Ian, oil is sold on the global market. That is why the whole idea of producing more in the US was a joke, as was releasing oil from the reserves. Buyden thought it would make it look like the gubmint was doing something about the prices. This is all in line with forcing people off oil, which I am just fine with. Notice how for years the flat-earthers were whining about the "global warming myth", and they've quieted down quite a bit. Only a fool would think you can dump trillions of tons of gases and particulates into the air and not have an effect.
Another never-mentioned aspect is brake pad dust and tire rubber. We burn through an insane amount annually; where do people THINK it all goes?
The damage to the environment is staggering; I've been watching it for 42 years. Between oil and coal, we'll be in a huge pickle within a decade. Some of you might know I raise local endangered reptiles and amphibians, so I'm out in the sticks from April to October every year, and the changes are not even subtle anymore.


There are a few problems I can see.
1. People in the US will not stop driving cars. But it’ll be fun watching them complain when it’s $20 a gallon. When it’s $30 a gallon maybe they’ll start asking why.
2. The US has one of the largest oil reserves on the planet, so if you’s want to pay $10 a gallon because you’d rather buy it from Russia (conveniently relabelled ‘Saudi Arabia’ in order not to shown as liars on the world stage) then continue with the government you have.
3. Extracting lithium (and other rare earth metals) from the earth is incredibly polluting and comes at a carbon footprint that has to be concealed in order to pretend that electric cars are good for the environment. They are not. They are far more destructive to the planet per unit vehicle, that petrol or diesel.
4. The cleanest form of fuel I can see, capable of meeting our demand for electricity, in nuclear. The greens don’t like that.

Sadly, until we get a sizeable quantity of nuclear power plants up and running, or reduce electricity consumption on the planet by 50%, we’ll be burning fossil fuels for the next two decades at least.

Now, like you, I have no truck with them artificially hiking the price of fuel to squeeze the masses into changing their habits and getting rich off the back of them. It’ll add the the cost of everyday goods (they have to be moved after all) but nothing noticeable when compared to the amount of money printing the muppetry demand of the governments, and sooner of later the masses will start to understand math, and all of a sudden they won’t be too worried about the price of fuel adding $1 to a gallon of milk when they have to pay back in inflation the trillions of dollars they wanted in handouts and for the past two years, and the blank cheques they wrote to big pharma to save them from the Cookie Monster (or whatever it was.

I haven’t driven in two years or more. I haven’t got a clue what the price per gallon is here in the UK. But it’s gonna get a lot higher. The way I see it, I’ve been lucky enough to live a life of luxury for five decades on the backs of others. If there is a rebalancing to be done, so be it. We (the west) elect people to decimate the world so we can buy cheap sh!t, live in luxury, and drive fancy cars.

In each of our countries we have a scum underclass who sit comfortably in the top 10% of the wealthier people on the planet. Here in the UK we have the wealthiest ‘poor people’ ever to exist on earth. It’s infantile. These people would really grow up quick if they discovered what poverty was. Poverty is not when you can’t do social media because you’ve run out of data, and you need to beg for cans of soup from a food bank because you’ve spent all your money on your Netflix subscription and food for your dogs.

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So maybe a little bit of an awakening. Maybe the ‘woke’ will give up on their pretty flag when they discover you need to work in order to put food on the table.

But a global war would be a really good distraction from everyone’s grumbles, and a good hard famine to keep the mind focussed back home.

It’s not like anyone can pretend they didn’t see it coming. Well, maybe if it makes them feel better they can.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:59 pm 
 

About nuclear energy, I was reading that all the world's spent fuel would only fill a football field to a dept of 30 feet.  If you ask me that is not a lot of space.  However finding that storage would prove impossible with all the NIMBY shouting that would happen.. It is by far the cleanest, and by far the most dangerous fuel source.  Maybe too dangerous.  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:14 pm 
 

To all of you who want to discuss things..try this on for size:

The US Constitution, the 10 commandments and "OD&D" are all old as ________, all outdated as _______ and all written by men who probably couldn't fathom what the world would be like now.

The first had to have amendments, yet never got rewritten for the the older ones as they added to it.
The second..well look up George Carlin's view on those.
The third got further editions, yet there are still people who can't have fun because of THAC0, Skill points, a DC, etc because it's not "their thing they grew up with."

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:57 am 
 

Deadlord wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:The damage to the environment is staggering


mbassoc2003 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:But a global war would be a really good distraction from everyone’s grumbles


People, please, we don't have to choose one or the other. All the government has to do is make promises about cleaning up the environment, but then oops there's this war to prosecute, so we have to pause the reforms for the teensiest minute until we've vanquished all of freedom's foes.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:44 am 
 

sauromatian wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:


People, please, we don't have to choose one or the other. All the government has to do is make promises about cleaning up the environment, but then oops there's this war to prosecute, so we have to pause the reforms for the teensiest minute until we've vanquished all of freedom's foes.

That's not how the world works.
It might be how your television tells you the world works, but it lies to you.
You also do not get to choose.

Plaag wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:To all of you who want to discuss things..try this on for size:

The US Constitution, the 10 commandments and "OD&D" are all old as ________, all outdated as _______ and all written by men who probably couldn't fathom what the world would be like now.

The first had to have amendments, yet never got rewritten for the the older ones as they added to it.
The second..well look up George Carlin's view on those.
The third got further editions, yet there are still people who can't have fun because of THAC0, Skill points, a DC, etc because it's not "their thing they grew up with."

Have fun!

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Yep. You's live in a country that refuses to move beyond personal gun ownership despite the death of tens of thousands a year.
If a population cannot fathom a life without a gun, how can they fathom a life without luxury, or entitlement, or 2200sq foot houses, or cars for all the family.

Could you imagine a government that told the truth to the citizens?
99% of people would be outraged that someone they elected dared to talk to them that way.
And the mainstream media would refuse to carry the story.

Every single generation has its fantasies of utopia. Not a single one ever succeeds. Not because they do not try, but because they do not learn math and pretend that it does not apply. They play out their fantasies in a sandbox, and never bother to run the math to see if it will work in real life. It is just a roleplaying game to them. "What do you want to do this weekend, Carl?" "Let's play Eco-warrior again."


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:27 am 
 

I love this community. It was surprising to me a few years ago when I joined. I got a lot of help for a new passion and discovered others who shared that passion. Nothing would change how I feel about the Acaeum.

The energy/environment, gun, tax, whatever else, conversation is panicky hand-waving. :) Which is all good! We should get these concerns out there, share opinions and generally engage each other. And we want our political leaders to do something!

Over the last 30+ years of following issues, I have rarely heard or read solutions. Of the proposed solutions, few are put into action. Maybe 10 have worked. I mean this globally.

Sri Lanka did something. They went to 100% organic farming in 2019. With 82% of their GDP coming from agriculture. It didnt end well.

Germany did something. Heck, Germany lead the world in wind and solar - by a lot. If Russia doesn't turn the gas back on till next year, or ever, holy phuck. Germany has supported Ukraine. Of course Putin and Russia are committing atrocities, (CLEARLY!), but Russia is on the other side of that support. Germany is literally saying, yes, we are helping to make sure you loose; anyway, lets get back to our energy business. Its surreal - like a Mel Brooks movie.

Italy, Portugal, Spain and Greece has have all done a lot to provide social services, worker protections,  participated in green energy, carbon reduction and all are about to enter a debt crisis.

Japan is going the way of Greece as well. Which was unimaginable to me.

I just believe referencing the available solutions, proposed by individuals, nations, the UN etc and vetting them, usually to failure, is the way forward. Otherwise, we just reinforce our thoughts that the other guy is a dummy. And we result to...

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:36 am 
 

I've spent 40 years watching our societies impoverishing other nations, stealing their resources, starving their children, and experimenting on them as if they are sub-human. I'll happily buy socks made by slave children in Guatemala. Do I pretend that I don't know what blood is shed for me I can save a few bucks? No. I'm not a hypocrite. I value buying cheap socks over the life of children in other countries. Just like everyone else. I just don't lie about it and pretend like it doesn't happen. Have you seen the filth these people live in? The stench of sewerage in a warm humid environment is something to behold. But at least I can buy cheap socks and have the luxury of a smartphone and a laptop assembled in sweatshops where they sometimes put up nets to prevent jumps. They don't do it because it saves a life. Or even for good PR. They do it because of the disruption of having to take all the witnesses who might talk away to be 're-educated' about the privilege they have assembling stuff for us buyers, is very expensive. Its cheaper to sack a live jumper than shut down a whole production line and re-educate them. Just like its cheaper to pay executives abortion expenses that it is to pay to insure their child and pay them maternity leave. We don't do these things to be nice, or because its the right thing to do. We do them because it is the cheapest option and provides the greatest return on investment.

Now you have a bunch of ill educated, mathematically challenged, 'woke' idiots who think the best thing they can do to apologize for raping and killing other nations is to cripple their economies and remove their fuel source, because 'starvation is green' and they'd rather de-populate countries that cannot protect themselves, than use contraception and remove 'entitlements' to depopulate our own. Maybe if we outlaw meat eating in our own countries and encourage everyone to eat crickets, the wokers can be at one with the countries they wish to starve into green compliance.

How about common sense, a moral compass, and pair of balls, and the nobility to leave other countries alone. After all, whenever we do get into hot conflicts abroad, we tend run away when we realize we have no idea how to fight and win a war. How many soldiers left their backbones in Afghanistan? I vas only following orders. Did they come back and go into law enforcement by any chance?

Bring on fuel and food poverty I say. It's good to change things about a bit every now and then. If the population has ignored the consequences of their actions for the last 40 years, they don't really give a fcuk, do they? If they are already predisposed (or too dumb) to not even take action to protect their own children from a gunman, why would they do anything to feed them when the store shelves are dry. Other than complain on YouTube that is.

I just don't understand why people give a F, and of those who do, I don't understand why they don't understand math. It's almost like its a game.
Besides, we have to stop eating meat because the cow farts are destroying the planet.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:57 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Random Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Just like its cheaper to pay executives abortion expenses that it is to pay to insure their child and pay them maternity leave. We don't do these things to be nice, or because its the right thing to do. We do them because it is the cheapest option and provides the greatest return on investment.


This quote demonstrates you and I likely agree on so much more. :)

I can only answer the overall question by saying my life experience has made me incredibly optimistic.

I remember acid rain was going to kill all the streams and lakes. I remember Ms. Owen telling our class 1/3 of the population may have AIDS by 2010, at the increased rate cases were being discovered. I remember I may have to live next to a landfill because we were running out of space for trash. I remember the population bomb was going to cause famine because the world couldn't make enough food to support more than 6 billion people. I remember peak oil, super-predators, three minutes to midnight from nuclear holocaust and communism! I dont mean small things like "All sea life will be gone" - Ted Danson. I mean we used to check closets for murderers if we got home after dark because of one serial killer. And the DnD Satanic Panic on 60 minutes! 60 phucking Minutes: Thank you so very much for that!

Ive literately gone my entire life being told: "Well, maybe that wasnt the end, but this is."

35% of world lived in poverty when I was a kid. We collected change in pint milk-carton like cups for charity at school. These folks couldn't afford enough daily calories to sustain their body weight. Were at 10% now. And that's down from every century going back to Christ. Covid forward aside, overall crime has gone done for 40 years, deaths by car accident are down, more people are accepted for their differences, the world has less dictators, less active wars, we live longer. I could go on, this guy says it better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCm9Ng0bbEQ

I totally agree, so many things are getting worse everywhere. But even more things are getting better at an even faster rate.


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