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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:23 am 
 

gyg wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Don't pretend to know much about this but isn't it odd that an item like this isn't being sold by someone like Paul Stormberg? This is a bit of history that surely needs to be given the treatment and respect it deserves


I'd think Paul was busy with other obligations.  I haven't seen anything from the Collector's Trove for some time.

Selling on eBay isn't anywhere as difficult as it once was.  But I understand why it's been called feeBay for awhile now.  :?



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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:47 am 
 

muaddib5 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:
I don't believe he was ever on Twitter.  He is (or was) on Facebook.


He was on Twitter, as I had “spoken” to him there. I’ve dropped him a message to see if he’ll clarify things on these sales


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:43 pm 
 

I don't believe he was ever on Twitter.  He is (or was) on Facebook.


He was @drawmsemaj on Twitter.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:49 pm 
 

That’s account no longer exists which is concerning re: these sales


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:57 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:That’s account no longer exists which is concerning re: these sales

Not really considering the sale is between the the buyer and another entity calling himself Clay.74 purporting to be someone who is not James Ward but 'a good friend'. Whoever buys is buying with all the protection of eBay and their credit card and the full might of the litigious systems that can be brought to bear if things go wrong.

For international buyers things are a bit more sketchy unless you're in the UK in which case you can buy, complain, send it back in a bag of water and still be entitled to a full refund under UK distance selling laws.

If a buyer is disappointed it is their own fault.

Clay.74 clearly knows and understands that he is listing things that require honesty, clarity, and assurance that James Ward isn't trying to fleece people with obscure references to a passing phase where he once contributed to D&D and is not trying to dupe the gullible by throwing his name around and sell the scrap paper that never quite made it into the garbage. Clarity, honesty, integrity, an accurate description of what the seller was selling in James Ward's is what is missing, and it is telling that James selected to sell his residue in this manner, with this seller, and with this level of clarity and openness.

I have no issue with then selling in this manner per se. Caveat emptor and all that. But, rightly or wrongly, I do read it as telling of James Ward's present opinion of the community at large. Like I said before, it's probably not Clay's fault. He's probably just a bellend.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:54 pm 
 

It would seem James Ward is allowing some random copies documents to be sold as important by using his name though and not taking ownership of some transparency.

That’s disappointing for someone who is an old name in the industry. Perhaps that’s just me with rose tinted glasses on, and there’s more bellends around that I realised


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:07 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:It would seem James Ward is allowing some random copies documents to be sold as important by using his name though and not taking ownership of some transparency.

That’s disappointing for someone who is an old name in the industry. Perhaps that’s just me with rose tinted glasses on, and there’s more bellends around that I realised

They do look like authentic old photocopies nonetheless. Not much different from 90% of the ‘tourneys’ that circulate as genuine. The majority of what the collecting community deems to be old manuscripts are just old photocopies run off at local copy shops, hotel guest services at conventions, and various offices. A photocopy is a photocopy, with or without someone’s notes on them. The age of the photocopy and the opinion of the buyer as to the importance of the person who may have left notes in the margin appears to be what attributes the value. As regards rare, or unique, those things are purely arbitrary and opinion when it comes to photocopies. They are rare or unique all the way until the next one comes out. Reminds me of Steve Marsh’s playtest copy of City of the Revenant. It was unique all the way up until he sold another one a year or two later.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:27 pm 
 

I think the key here is the letter of provenance (which is provided).

  


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:55 am 
 

I don’t dispute they are real items, but it’s the lack of clarity as to what you’re getting that seems clouded.

Plus as you say, what’s to stop another copy coming out next month


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:11 am 
 

Complete and innice condition! The price is very good and it is closeto the end:


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:19 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:They do look like authentic old photocopies nonetheless. Not much different from 90% of the ‘tourneys’ that circulate as genuine. The majority of what the collecting community deems to be old manuscripts are just old photocopies run off at local copy shops, hotel guest services at conventions, and various offices. A photocopy is a photocopy, with or without someone’s notes on them. The age of the photocopy and the opinion of the buyer as to the importance of the person who may have left notes in the margin appears to be what attributes the value. As regards rare, or unique, those things are purely arbitrary and opinion when it comes to photocopies. They are rare or unique all the way until the next one comes out. Reminds me of Steve Marsh’s playtest copy of City of the Revenant. It was unique all the way up until he sold another one a year or two later.

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Post Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:27 pm 
 

Coup!e of questions...
Does eBay let a seller continually relist an item over and over again if it doesn't sell?  
I'm curious, did these ever come shrink wrapped?  I don't believe I have ever seen one like that.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:49 am 
 

Re:eBay
Yes, you can relist as long as you want to


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:42 am 
 

shadeun wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Most stuff I see quoted for a single module, like say G3 at $19 to the UK or similar. basically 20 sheets of A4 equivalent.

makes it impossible to buy US stuff unless you aggregate purchases (hence im trying to buy stuff in bulk from here - or use a freight forwarding address in US to aggregate)


I agree. I used to buy quite a bit from the States when I got back into collecting 20 years ago and rebuying what I had as a boy.  Now I don’t even look at US auctions. Cost of shipping is far too prohibitive, so I am not surprised it’s the same the other way around.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:14 pm 
 

Sir Kill Alot wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Does eBay let a seller continually relist an item over and over again if it doesn't sell?  


There is a simple checkbox in eBay to automatically relist if it doesn't sell so the seller doesn't have to do anything.  eBay also gives 200 free listings a month so its easy to maintain a fair sized inventory with little effort or expense.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:32 am 
 

Hereby a weird lot...


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BTW, what is the leaflet "tue original depth delving Frpg"? I have never seen smtg similar to that one...


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:52 am 
 

Just something they home-brewed (i.e. of no significant monetary value) for the sale.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:45 am 
 

Sealed miniset by 25th Edition:


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