Philflound wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:Just got 2 copies of S1 in today for grading from someone. Both are first prints. One has a blue interior cover print and the other has a light green. I remember something similar with I believe another module where the printed map on the interior cover came in 2 different color shades, though for the life of me, can't remember which adventure. There is nothing here about S1 having 2 different color interior for the cover. Anyone have an idea. I am not breaking out a variation on this, but if S1 does come in 2 different color cover interiors, I may note it on the label. Thanks.

Phil

I think its a different print method now. I checked some copies. All the blue interior are dots, like off set printing. I only have one light green. No dots. Its all one solid print, like a stamp. 20x magnification shows a lot. I didn't expect it. I may start another thread to discuss this.

There is nothing wrong with them, they look glorious. :)  

Apologies if the attempt at humor is falling flat. A 7.0+ is a great grade for something that has spent 40+ years without dedicated bags, boards and other protective stuff. How many folks even bother bagging and boarding modules now? I didnt at first. And I already had tons of stuff to protect cards and comics - and I wasnt even that into comics. :)

Compared to comics, modules also seem to be more fragile. For example, its harder to get a corner ding on a comic. They are just lighter, much more flexible and harder to have a color breaks. Turning the module cover like a comic page, and not like a plank of wood, could reduce a grade. That doesnt matter if you are reading it, and that is what these are for. It only matters if you are trying to preserve the copy. Modules also seem to have more factory defects, like frays on spines and damage from shrink. Small spine splits, or folds, are also on a number of my modules.

I need to look through the pop reports a bit more, but there are several modules in the 4.0-5.0 range. And I assume this is folks sending in their best? Folks arent paying $25-$50 to grade a module they know they can buy for that price. Now, I am going to make up some numbers...I assume 80% of first edition modules would grade 5.0 or lower. Maybe 10% more up to a 6.0. The last 10% may fall 6.5 or higher.

Edit: all that being said, I did start a support group for grades that surprise.


The 8.5's in shrink has a lot of notes for the shrink.

spine stress lines breaks color
wear bottom of spine breaks color
seal seam split bottom of spine
seal small poke holes at corners
very light crease left bottom of front cover break

The other two:

R4
multiple crease cover
multiple crease spine

R3
light creasing to cover
light wear cover breaks color

Seemingly, the insanity of putting a module that is still in a petroleum-based sheath and grading it without knowing the true measure of its condition and then slabbing it has spread to CGC as they contemplated lost revenue.

I think my biggest fear is that the market completely moves in this direction before I am done with my collecting goals.  Right now it is not affecting me in the least and may be helping by taking dollars out of the areas that I am in. The genie has been let out of the bottle and right now it’s looking like this is the future path of D&D collecting, but the flat-earther in me still wants no part of it.  I recently had a conversation with my wife (and she’ll never understand) that one day I will have a wall of 9s in my study.  They will be MY 9s, acquired from the endless searching of marketplaces. I am not so sure I’ll ever purchase a slabbed item, at least not in my current state of mind.

-SKA

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Tszii wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:
Compared to comics, modules also seem to be more fragile. For example, its harder to get a corner ding on a comic. They are just lighter, much more flexible and harder to have a color breaks. Turning the module cover like a comic page, and not like a plank of wood, could reduce a grade. That doesnt matter if you are reading it, and that is what these are for. It only matters if you are trying to preserve the copy. Modules also seem to have more factory defects, like frays on spines and damage from shrink. Small spine splits, or folds, are also on a number of my modules.

I need to look through the pop reports a bit more, but there are several modules in the 4.0-5.0 range. And I assume this is folks sending in their best? Folks arent paying $25-$50 to grade a module they know they can buy for that price. Now, I am going to make up some numbers...I assume 80% of first edition modules would grade 5.0 or lower. Maybe 10% more up to a 6.0. The last 10% may fall 6.5 or higher.

And this is why, when people grade their own items, buyer beware.

I think the prevalence of TRUE NM modules is going to be far lower than a lot of people assume, no matter every other person on ebay is selling their AD&D monos as "NM".

And this is one of the main reasons I am fully invested in having my nicer quality items slabbed, to eliminate a lot of the doubt when time finally comes to sell them. It's also why paying $500-$800 for an average condition module is ludicrous, but this will be sorted out the more items are graded through the next few years.

Mike B.

Philflound wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:  We have never graded any of the 5 Supplements, so I had to build these from scratch.

Phil

I will be sending in a some supplements, and maybe a Tunnels and Trolls Monsters! Monsters!, here soon. I seem to have an addiction to anticipation.

It's finally out. I can't find it on youtube, though the social marketing director said it was going to be on all 3 platforms. I'm linking facebook and IG.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8aaIukPIjR/

https://fb.watch/sPfoVzg_kS/

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