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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:29 pm 
 

On the other side of the fence, I just sold one package and charged a little over $3 for shipping.  The actual shipping was a little over $2.

The package gets destroyed by the postal service.  The buyer says that it is obvious that it got caught in some type of machine that ate it.  And he gets royally po'ed at me because my flat rate shipping I quote wasn't exactly what it worked out to be and the package was destroyed.  That extra dollar should have been spent on extra packaging.

Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I have perfect feedback so far, (right at 1000), and this the first real time someone has questioned my shipping packaging or cost.

I offered to refund his money if he returned the item.  I got another rant about him having to go through the trouble of doing this.  Thoughts??


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:53 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:55 pm 
 

cdenham wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:On the other side of the fence, I just sold one package and charged a little over $3 for shipping.  The actual shipping was a little over $2.

The package gets destroyed by the postal service.  The buyer says that it is obvious that it got caught in some type of machine that ate it.  And he gets royally po'ed at me because my flat rate shipping I quote wasn't exactly what it worked out to be and the package was destroyed.  That extra dollar should have been spent on extra packaging.

Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I have perfect feedback so far, (right at 1000), and this the first real time someone has questioned my shipping packaging or cost.

I offered to refund his money if he returned the item.  I got another rant about him having to go through the trouble of doing this.  Thoughts??


You're doing the right thing.

Just remember to save your correspondence if he tries to after you through Ebay.

Then ban the seller from your future sales, as certain people will just give you problems...


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:27 pm 
 

Zenfinite wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:I don't know what's going on over at eBay, but wow. Here's a doozy for you guys:

Purchased a Dark Sun module lot from a seller, $25 bid, $20 for shipping. I pay my $45, and get the modules in the mail. Oh look, $11.10 for shipping. That's an $8.90 overcharge on shipping. OK then, maybe he bullet-proofed the packing? I open it up, and he used an empty egg carton, an empty Ritz cracker box, and a plastic clamshell that was used to hold banana nut muffins. Did I mention the inside of the clamshell was covered in muffin funk? Because it was.

OK, I send the seller a message explaining my problem with his packaging style and charging me almost double on shipping fees. Long story short, he tells me to fuck off. OK, I open an eBay complaint and wait for justice. Nope. Ebay tells me he's totally allowed to do that and closes my case. I appeal! Surely somebody else thinks double shipping charges are against the rules! Wait, they are! Here: Selling practices policy And let me sum up QUOTE "It's against our rules to provide unclear or misleading shipping information or to charge unreasonable fees for shipping and related services." So, I get the appeal back, denied. Apparently eBay finds it completely OK to charge an $8.90 fee for packing my box with food laden garbage. Awesome.

Well, at least I get to give him negative feedback, right? I post unhappy with service, package packed with TRASH, would not help. Avoid. Slam his DSRs. Ahhh. Justice.

WRONG.

Ebay then proceeded to remove my negative feedback. I shit you not. Took them literally one minute. I got an email saying they removed it because of the decision on the case.

I'm not even sure what the moral of this story is. I spent $9.00 on garbage? Avoid ebay seller "valuebuys" like the plague? Drive to Martinsburg, WV and soap their windows? The options are there! I'm lucky I know, thousands of transactions and only a small handful like this but wow. When they removed the feedback I really was thrown for a loop. I thought the new eBay was "protect the buyer", well, not in this case. Is there a shrugging emoticon? How about facepalm? Hmmm.

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Do NOT dispute something like that with Ebay.  There is nothing in stone against charging double, triple, quadruple fees...,it is discouraged, but not forbidden, and it's totally subjective.  Right now, Ebay gets a fee off your shipping fees, so it's not in it's best interests to punish a seller for charging high fees.  As a matter of fact, Ebay is slowly making the change back to "Seller Friendly" making it easier for guys like me to remove negative feedback, or in your case, remove it for me.  

I will even go as far to say it was your fault you did not confirm why the seller was charging so much for shipping and what method they were using.  If they said they were shipping priority and then shipped media, you MIGHT have a case with Ebay.

The best revenge is a stealth hammering of the DSRs. Do not announce your intention to do so (some instances can be removed). Just hammer the fuck out of them.  Worse than negative feedback, trust me.

In a case where I think the seller has just made a simple mistake, I will definitely send them a friendly email asking for some clairification and implying it might have an effect on their DSRs.  In your case, where basically the seller packed your box with trash, just bitch slap the fool and move on.  

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:29 pm 
 

Invincible Overlord wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
cdenham wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:On the other side of the fence, I just sold one package and charged a little over $3 for shipping.  The actual shipping was a little over $2.

The package gets destroyed by the postal service.  The buyer says that it is obvious that it got caught in some type of machine that ate it.  And he gets royally po'ed at me because my flat rate shipping I quote wasn't exactly what it worked out to be and the package was destroyed.  That extra dollar should have been spent on extra packaging.

Maybe I'm in the wrong, but I have perfect feedback so far, (right at 1000), and this the first real time someone has questioned my shipping packaging or cost.

I offered to refund his money if he returned the item.  I got another rant about him having to go through the trouble of doing this.  Thoughts??


You're doing the right thing.

Just remember to save your correspondence if he tries to after you through Ebay.

Then ban the seller from your future sales, as certain people will just give you problems...


Bingo. IO has it. Refund, ban and move on. Not worth it. I just refunded a $17 order where the buyer TOTALLY ADMITTED it was his fault and he ordered the wrong item, but he filed a complaint, so I didn't want to mess with it. He did, however, actually send back the product which was cool.

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:49 pm 
 

Badmike wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:

Zen you didn't grok the equation.

Do NOT dispute something like that with Ebay.  There is nothing in stone against charging double, triple, quadruple fees...,it is discouraged, but not forbidden, and it's totally subjective.  Right now, Ebay gets a fee off your shipping fees, so it's not in it's best interests to punish a seller for charging high fees.  As a matter of fact, Ebay is slowly making the change back to "Seller Friendly" making it easier for guys like me to remove negative feedback, or in your case, remove it for me.  

I will even go as far to say it was your fault you did not confirm why the seller was charging so much for shipping and what method they were using.  If they said they were shipping priority and then shipped media, you MIGHT have a case with Ebay.

The best revenge is a stealth hammering of the DSRs. Do not announce your intention to do so (some instances can be removed). Just hammer the fuck out of them.  Worse than negative feedback, trust me.

In a case where I think the seller has just made a simple mistake, I will definitely send them a friendly email asking for some clairification and implying it might have an effect on their DSRs.  In your case, where basically the seller packed your box with trash, just bitch slap the fool and move on.  

Mike B.


Yep, seems like that is the case, but hammering his DSRs wouldn't help, because they're already so low he's not getting any discounts. I've had plenty of people charge what I thought was too much for shipping, then end up sending it in some manner where the money didn't go right to their own pockets. It was the combo of the double fee and the trash he packed it with that got me to thinking I could get the money back; little did I know eBay was totally cool with a $9.00 trash fee. Hell, if it was $11.00 shipping, and the box had bubble wrap, packing peanuts and looked like he took more than 2 minutes I wouldn't have said a thing and just moved on with my day. Funky trash? Bah. Well, now I know better I guess.

Cdenham, I'm not sure what the hell "extra packaging" a dollar would buy, but whatever. Plus, if a machine ate it, how is that your fault? Regardless, the seller is in charge until the package hits the buyer's hands and he is thrilled. You're on the hook for the item, however, I sure wouldn't give it to him for free. If he wants his $$ back he's gotta ship it back to you. Even eBay won't let him keep the item AND get his money back. Be civil, maybe split the shipping cost back with him. Then block him for all eternity. Then post his username in the bad buyers thread so we can all block him too. :) Because honestly, bitching over a dollar is just lunacy.

And this always happens in streaks!! Who's next??

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:39 pm 
 

Invincible Overlord wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
stratochamp wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:
has there ever been a grunge band called muffin funk?


ROFL... oh god laughed too loud at work and now people are looking at me strangely.... hah...

Bill that made my day!  :D

i'm glad Andy! your unexpected laughter at work reminds of Q giving Data a parting gift at the end of the episode Deja Q


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:59 pm 
 

Umm, ebay is charging 'Import Charges'... that's a new one for me, thoughts?


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:27 pm 
 

Thunderdave wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Umm, ebay is charging 'Import Charges'... that's a new one for me, thoughts?


I believe that is only if the seller is using something called the Global Shipping Program, I wouldn't use it whatever that is...

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:25 am 
 

Thanks, Mike,

I assume it can be changed on the seller's end because I got a revised invoice without.  Ouch though, the fee wasn't even close to what customs would have charged (like, triple!).


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:38 am 
 

stratochamp wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:i'm glad Andy! your unexpected laughter at work reminds of Q giving Data a parting gift at the end of the episode Deja Q


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:54 pm 
 

throwi wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:For those other Trek lovers/gamers:

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:22 pm 
 

Love the card!
On a related note...I wonder if I am the only guy who prefers DS9 over the other series. I love them all, but DS9 has a special something to it that really grabbed me. PDT_Armataz_01_04

  

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nevcoup wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Love the card!
On a related note...I wonder if I am the only guy who prefers DS9 over the other series. I love them all, but DS9 has a special something to it that really grabbed me. PDT_Armataz_01_04


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:24 pm 
 

nevcoup wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:Love the card!
On a related note...I wonder if I am the only guy who prefers DS9 over the other series. I love them all, but DS9 has a special something to it that really grabbed me. PDT_Armataz_01_04


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At the end of the auction's first day, the actual DS9 model used in the series was sold.  In the catalog, they estimated a sale price of $8000 to $12,000.  A certain other Acaeum member, who is quite fond of DS9, asked his wife whether, if acting as his proxy I could buy it for around $12,000, he could have it mounted so that it hung from the ceiling of their living room.  She -- one of the most understanding of non-gamer spouses who has ever lived -- said that, if I could indeed win the auction, and if I did only spend around $12,000, that . . . no, he couldn't have it mounted in the living room.   :(

In the end, the issue was moot.  It sold for $110,000.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:02 am 
 

Bracton,

Can you point me to the picture of the desk, or repost?  I'd love to see it.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:02 pm 
 

1) Bracton's desk is awesome. It's covered in a wire mesh that gives 1 h.p. of damage just for looking at it.
2) I too think DS9 is the best of the Treks. I love Kirk leading with his back in a knife fight (Journey to Babel) and Spock with a beard and an agonizer (Mirror, Mirror), but DS9's deft use of religion/mythology/ethics and their decision to write 10 episode story arcs made the characters feel real in a way that's rare in televised sci-fi drama.
3) Yes I was the crazy person who wanted an enormous model of DS9 hanging in his living room. Oh well. I had to "settle"  for a Jem'Hadar phase rifle prop (sold at the same Christie's auction) that Bracton generously gave me. It sits proudly in the living room and takes up a lot less space.


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stratochamp wrote in Former Thoughts or OT Chit-Chat Thread:1) Bracton's desk is awesome. It's covered in a wire mesh that gives 1 h.p. of damage just for looking at it.
2) I too think DS9 is the best of the Treks. I love Kirk leading with his back in a knife fight (Journey to Babel) and Spock with a beard and an agonizer (Mirror, Mirror), but DS9's deft use of religion/mythology/ethics and their decision to write 10 episode story arcs made the characters feel real in a way that's rare in televised sci-fi drama.
3) Yes I was the crazy person who wanted an enormous model of DS9 hanging in his living room. Oh well. I had to "settle"  for a Jem'Hadar phase rifle prop (sold at the same Christie's auction) that Bracton generously gave me. It sits proudly in the living room and takes up a lot less space.


I also think DS9 was well done, with its continual story line and pushing of the envelope (loved the alternate timeline and the Dominion/Fed/Klingon war - battle scenes were epic).  Still, TNG holds a special place in my heart.  It had to convince TOS fans that Trek could be done again... it paved the way for DS9, Voyager, etc.  If DS9 came first, it might not have worked.  Hard to say.  I also like Janeway from Voyager, and her blend of toughness with a caring heart.  One of my favorite Captains for sure.

Both the desk and phase rifle sound great.  The only thing I can boast is that I have the complete Decipher STCCG 1E card set (sans Reflections foils).  

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