I am just speculating, but I doubt it. They wouldnt fit in the internal well - the inside seal.

Tszii wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:Thanks for the replies Philflound.

I resubmitted five modules in their CGC cases. I didnt get the modules cleaned, pressed or imaged the first time and grew to regret it so much their are on their way back.

Can you explain why so many people on youtube crack comics out of their slabs for resubmitting? Youtube basically only returns videos for how to crack open a case when resubmitting. That doesnt seem practical.

I'm unsure as to your statement. I can answer the question. Not sure what you mean by "Youtube basically only returns videos for how to crack open case" unless you are meaning when you do a search.

Some people crack out the book because they don't like the grade. They may get someone to press the book or do it themselves instead of having CGC press the book. They take their chances with that. If their presser
screws up the book or does a bad press job, it can possibly lower the grade. If we press it, it is done right where there is no rippling and bends are removed.

Some people switch labels and resubmit it. They think because the label is included with the comic that we will automatically give the returned book at least the grade "it was in". This is not the case as once a book comes in
raw, it is graded as if we never saw it before. So there is no guarantee on a grade if opened.

Some people don't like the grade and just send it in hoping that a different grader may "like" it better than the original finalizer. We are human, so depending on the grader, someone may deem the grade to be a little harsh and
give it a bump. This doesn't happen too often, and if so, may only jump up 1 grade. This can also backfire if some defect happened to be missed. We're talking over 20 years of grading. Early grading may have been a little more
lenient on certain defects or possibly was a bit harder. Over the years, input from the collecting community and dealers may have influenced certain defects to be graded easier or even more difficult. Tanning of covers is the one
that comes to mind.

Time still can affect a grade of a book. It is more likely that a book will downgrade if stored improperly. Extreme heat/light may affect fading or tanning. Also, NEVER put any books with staples in a fireproof safe. There is some
chemical in the safe that causes staples to rust, which can really kill a book.

As to you resubmitting your modules for cleaning and pressing. Make sure you have pressable defects. I can't tell you how many times we get books to be pressed that have stains, writing, color breaking creases, rust, etc that cannot
be removed with pressing. Bends, rippling and warping are pretty much the only defects that can increase the grade of the book. Some people press items to look nicer though the grade does not change.

Going to note the obvious, but people will still send things in regardless. Shrink-wrapped items will NOT be pressed. This is why I recommended in an earlier reply that you should send shrink-wrapped pieces in its own invoice, esepcially if
you have other pieces you want pressed.

Hope all this helps. I look forward to getting your items in my hands.

Phil

I found this video interesting... Goes through each grade tier starting at 3.0

EXAMPLES OF CGC COMIC BOOK GRADING SCALE - YouTube

-SKA

Philflound wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:As long as it fits in a holder, it can be slabbed.

What about the super-modules? Do they fit?  (GDQ1-7 "Queen of Spiders", "T1-4 Temple of Elemental Evil", etc?)

Hi Phil, how big of a penalty is applied to an item with slight warping due to shrinkwrap? Does it make sense to open it up and send it in with CGC pressing it?

Thanks

-SKA

Sir Kill Alot wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:Hi Phil, how big of a penalty is applied to an item with slight warping due to shrinkwrap? Does it make sense to open it up and send it in with CGC pressing it?

Tszii wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:I have a couple of modules like this. After typing and deleting several thoughts about grading sealed and what I think makes sense, I realize I have no idea what grade impact it could or should have. I think I would rather unwrap them and have them pressed if they didnt look really good?

Aye, and as John Quiñones says “What would you do?” Perhaps this is a bit of a data driven decision for the not so distant future to see where the results of these kind of decisions land and lead toward. I’m very green to this whole standard but now am curious if there is an aggregated source of all the census data across all of the slabbers, available to public without need of membership?

Sorry I did not get back to this sooner. I had a busy week.

DO NOT REMOVE THE SHRINKWRAP! Warping will probably not affect the grade whatsoever unless it looks to be in 9.8 and even then it may still get a 9.8.

When we first met with the video game graders, we asked them about the warping issue as comic book graders, we would downgrade some (not a ton) if the
warping was the only issue. Their explanation was that if the shrinkwrap is removed, then there would be little to no warping. So they pretty much ignore it.
Although if warping is caused by water/liquid damage, then that's a different story.

That being said, there still may be spine dings or other issues with the module that may lower grade. But the warping itself should not affect the grade.

As comic/magazine graders, if we have any questions about graded items in shrinkwrap, we can consult the video game graders and get their opinion.

If you really want to see how your warped modules grade, I suggest sending in a couple of samples. You probably should send them in with either other sealed
items or just raw, open ones. This way you can get a feel on how your items will grade.

Since I'm first on all D&D items, you should know that I ALWAYS put in defects for anything below a 9.8. I'm a vintage high value grader, so putting defects on pretty
much everything is normal for me, especially since the grading costs more.

Phil

Supernaut wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:

Aye, and as John Quiñones says “What would you do?” Perhaps this is a bit of a data driven decision for the not so distant future to see where the results of these kind of decisions land and lead toward. I’m very green to this whole standard but now am curious if there is an aggregated source of all the census data across all of the slabbers, available to public without need of membership?

Looking at your photo, I can say that the warping will not affect the grade. That is very minor. I wouldn't anticipate too many warped shrinkwrapped items to come in because of the vent holes. Your seal on the side looks like it may have some snags/tears though. Can't completely tell.

Supernaut wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:

Aye, and as John Quiñones says “What would you do?” Perhaps this is a bit of a data driven decision for the not so distant future to see where the results of these kind of decisions land and lead toward. I’m very green to this whole standard but now am curious if there is an aggregated source of all the census data across all of the slabbers, available to public without need of membership?

I Would Not UnWrap That. It looks great as is.

I read further in the thread. Its good we all seem to be on the same page. :)