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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:52 pm 
 

Assuming you mean entering the child in a beauty pageant in the first place, then, yes.

  

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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:55 pm 
 

It could potentially be child abuse.


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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:24 pm 
 

No, I mean injecting your childs face with Botox. In the Uk it would be a clear cut social services intervention and removal for child abuse. In the US it seems to be a cool story of quirky parenthood. I'm wondering where the line is in the US for abuse of children over parent's rights to do with their children as they see fit. In the UK the child would be in care and the mother would be released on bail by now.


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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:33 pm 
 

While I think most of us would agree that subjecting one's child to elective cosmetic medical procedures is disgusting and misguided, I'm not sure that it's technically illegal in any way in the U.S. (though I agree it should be). District Attorneys in certain jurisdictions might try to prosecute this on the basis of child endangerment. Are you saying this would be a clear-cut criminal case in the U.K.?


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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:04 pm 
 

In the UK it would be a clear cut social services intervention while the decision to prosecute would then be up to the Crown Prosecution Service. Technically, if the mother admitted to injecting the child's face, she would be arrested and questioned under oath, and probably released pending investigation of the case by the CPS. The child's welfare is considered more important than the parent's rights operate on their children in the UK. It seems the other way round in the UK. I wonder if that is because of social vanity or some strange value system, or because everyone is terrified an abusive parent will find a lawyer willing to sue Social Services.


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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:09 pm 
 

I think it would depend upon circumstances.  

The question would be Alabama's legal definition of "abuse."  In the United States, doing something someone else does not like is not necessarily "abuse."

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the social services people have more power in the UK than they do in the United States.  They certainly have a lot of power here.

The people who tend to get in trouble with the social services in the United States most often cannot afford lawyers.


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Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:41 pm 
 

So Prufrock....when are you moving to Texas?

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 29697.html

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:36 am 
 

That does not bother me too much.  Do not like it but I think I can live with it.

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:15 am 
 

Indiana just crapped on the 4th amendment, wow.

Not only that, but if you read the story all the way through, they now allow "no knock" warrants if "circumstances warrant it" (aka, whenever they feel like it). I don't care who you SAY you are, you bust in unlawfully without showing me a warrant, I'm putting down as many of you as I can before I get put down myself.  Headshots.

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:20 am 
 

Those random cop sweeps for unlawful possession of miniatures can be over-the-top brutal.


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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:10 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
Indiana just crapped on the 4th amendment, wow.

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I would say that I am surprised by this, but last year, the state of Ohio ruled that police didn't need proof to show that you were speeding...they just have to say you were. It was fought up to the supreme court in Ohio. Still confused by the "innocent until proven guilty" bit  :roll:

  

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:50 am 
 

Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.  Making it legal for cops to enter your home without a warrant and stopping you for speeding with no proof I would think opens the local government to an amazing amount of lawsuits.

"(The court is saying) we would rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the officer."


So either they think that the majority of citizens are just going to roll over for this and not prosecute them when it happens, or their target audience is too poor to do so.  :?


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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:15 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.  Making it legal for cops to enter your home without a warrant and stopping you for speeding with no proof I would think opens the local government to an amazing amount of lawsuits.



So either they think that the majority of citizens are just going to roll over for this and not prosecute them when it happens, or their target audience is too poor to do so.  :?


It is a amazing how our society is becoming increasingly distracted by sports, celebrities, TV and trivia.  I will note that D&D collecting is not trivial by the way ;).  Things that matter like basic freedoms are being challenged and taken here with surprisingly little backlash.  

Edmund Burke supposedly said, "All it takes for evil to take over is for a few good people to do nothing."  Even if he didn't say it, it seems this is coming to pass in this instance.  I'm hoping someone will take this all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.  I can't believe it's gone as far as it has.   :?


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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:28 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.  Making it legal for cops to enter your home without a warrant and stopping you for speeding with no proof I would think opens the local government to an amazing amount of lawsuits.

So either they think that the majority of citizens are just going to roll over for this and not prosecute them when it happens, or their target audience is too poor to do so.  :?


I was being tongue in cheek with my statement, but seriously, does this do anything but create more dead cops? There are a LOT of hard core gun and survivalist types out there, some with semi-auto weapons, that already think the government has it in for them. Having a cop bust down their door with a no-knock warrant, especially say if the warrant is a mistake (for the wrong offense, or at the wrong address), may now be legal, but that doesn't mean a half dozen cops aren't going to do down along the way.  Both the Ruby Ridge and Waco Siege fiascos could have been avoided had they just waited until the people they were looking for came into town to buy beer or cigs, or responded to fake real estate buyers (as Weaver did at Ruby Ridge) who were Marshals in disguise.  It does frighten me that law enforcement seems to be ratcheting up the intensity in these situations by these rulings.

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:43 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:
It is a amazing how our society is becoming increasingly distracted by sports, celebrities, TV and trivia.  I will note that D&D collecting is not trivial by the way ;).  Things that matter like basic freedoms are being challenged and taken here with surprisingly little backlash.  

Edmund Burke supposedly said, "All it takes for evil to take over is for a few good people to do nothing."  Even if he didn't say it, it seems this is coming to pass in this instance.  I'm hoping someone will take this all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.  I can't believe it's gone as far as it has.   :?


I'm not a union backer by any means whatsoever, but it's amazing that while all the attention has been on Walker and the Wisconsin rulings, with protests and calls to arms, anti-union forces have manage to quietly curtail or neuter unions completely in states like Iowa, Ohio, and Massachusetts with little or no complaint. Walker and his buddies should get a pat on the back by his peers for providing the stalking horse for union protests while their rights were taken away in other locations. Likewise its amazing while we are distracted by Snookie, Lebron James and Donald Trump our liberties are chipped away bit by bit. I'm with BJ hopefully this will end up in the (conservative leaning) supreme court and be changed.

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:13 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Both the Ruby Ridge and Waco Siege fiascos could have been avoided had they just waited until the people they were looking for came into town to buy beer or cigs


Both Ruby Ridge and Waco could have been avoided with simple adherence to very clear laws.

In both cases, federal agents acted with a riot mentality on very suspect...or completely made up...legal authority.

Waco was an avoidable tragedy.  Officers should have gone to jail for their actions at Ruby Ridge.

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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:32 pm 
 

By the same accounts, both could have been avoided by adherence to very clear laws by the perpetrators. It isn't difficult in the US to obey the law. It's just that some find it very hard to do so.


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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 3:14 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:It isn't difficult in the US to obey the law. It's just that some find it very hard to do so.

And they all work in the U.S. Federal Gummint. State and local ones as well. The U.S. Constitution is gone. Face it, it's a facade. The Banks own the U.S.. Corporatism rules the day. Our Finance Comittees make weak queries of Herr Bernanke where all the money from the ILLEGAL bailouts went, and he basically thumbs his nose at Congress and tells them to F-Off. No punishment. No removal from his position. No balls.

And the people here just keep electing the same pieces if S**T every time (sans overwhelming fraud), and don't do a damn thing to stop this BS. Why? Because doing so would be an inconvenience. They have the time to go to the stadium dressing and acting as Neanderthals, yet none of these low-brow terds can bother themselves to go on jury duty to overturn bad laws WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT AND DUTY!!! Not to mention that most probably have never read the U.S. Constitution in their lives, or at least not recently.

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