bbarsh wrote:You can say it was Iraq, but notice how the media has completely shut up about it since. We were beginning to withdraw with or without change in DC.It was all about the economy. People ultimately vote with their wallet. Bush failed to catch the economic disaster and the party paid for it. Then again, Republicans just were never solidly in McCain's corner. They trotted out a guy who probably never had a real chance.
bbarsh wrote:If somebody takes one of my kids, or any kid, I really would not be concerned with what other people think of my actions. I would torture the motherfu...r to an inch of his life and do for infinity to get my child back. People could label me a torturer like "every other torturer" or "evil" until the day I die, but if it gets my kid back, I really wouldn't care.
bombadil wrote:That reminds me. Remember the nut case who threatened Frank's kids here a few years ago?
bclarkie wrote:And if it didn't get your kid back? Or if you found out you had the wrong person?Then what?
bombadil wrote:I think harami was in that category for a while.
bbarsh wrote: Dave something....maybeWhere is brian?
bclarkie wrote:David aka Harami is still around....
bbarsh wrote:Nice.But wasn't there some other guy buying up every white box in sight to try and drive the price up. A few years ago, I think.Or was that David aka Harami and I never put that together....
bclarkie wrote:You might be thinking of Dave Whitfield aka Cougarrinard who was buying up all the H1 sets for a long time.
bbarsh wrote:But wasn't there some other guy buying up every white box in sight to try and drive the price up. A few years ago, I think.
Kingofpain89 wrote:I for one wholeheartedly believe that we went to, and landed men on the moon. I've read plenty of articles about why and how the U.S. could have faked the moon landings but frankly I dont believe it is even remotely possible to fake something like that and keep it from getting out to the general public. I dont care how much money someone throws at you or how big a threat someone makes to keep you from talking....something as big as that would get out somehow. I'm not going to go into all of the reasons why people think the moon landings were fake or attempt to debunk anything because its already been done enough by other people much more intelligent than myself. However, you asked the question above "Why havent we gone back?" Pretty simple answer if you ask me. What else could we possibly gain by going back to the Moon at this juncture? Only two things pop out at me. 1) Dark side observatory. 2) Launch pad for future interplanetary missions. An observatory on the dark side of the moon would be fantastic but unbelievably expensive. As for the launch pad, again....expensive. As much money as we have spent on the ISS (somewhere in the tens of billions of dollars so far) it would cost quite a bit more to fund either of the above ventures. With the sad state of the world economy I dont see either of these happening in my lifetime. Nor do I see a manned mission to Mars occurring anytime soon.