ashmire13 wrote:So, with the 40 year anniversary of the moon "landing" coming up, do you believe that they made it, or do you subscribe to the feeling that there is enough evidence to suggest it was staged?

Personally, on the stuff I've read and watched, there are a lot of holes in what is believed to have gone on and also what hasn't happened since.

My 5 year old is learning about it at school at the moment and we are helping him get info about the astronauts and what went on, but I don't think I should be highlighting points that may start to show there was no landing.

Anywho, maybe in a few years there will be definite proof one way or the other, but I always find that the best way to make a convincing 'conspiracy' theory, is to have no evidence to support your claim!   

JohnGaunt wrote:I know two people who believe that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim.  To each his own (whacky beliefs).

The November/December 2000 issue of Skeptical Inquirer has an article entitled Why Bad Beliefs Don't Die.  The article says that beliefs are a survival tool that extend the senses beyond what is immediately observable.  Beliefs and data can coexist and can agree or disagree.  But changing any belief threatens the belief system/world view as a whole, so all beliefs are hard to change.

Just tell your son that God created the universe five minutes ago and that all of his memories were created by God at that time.

bbarsh wrote:
Good point.

But I am of the opinion that the U.S. does not need to regain the moral high ground in the eyes of the rest of world. I really could care less what some anti-U.S. guy across the ocean thinks about how we deal with prisoners of war.

The minute the U.S. starts adjusting policy to conform with what the rest of the world thinks is the same minute we take the road of failure. Sometimes doing what is right is to risk scorn from others. But that does not make it the wrong thing to do.

This whole torture thing is flat out bullshit anyway. The U.S. is not the freaking Soviet Union of the 50s (or even today). The enemy is the enemy. There is a war going on. And in war bad things happen. Decisions have to be made - many of which are not very popular - but victory is the goal.

It seems it is very easy for those who have never been in the field to criticize those who have. That is the American way. And I am ok with that.  But when my political leaders start changing policy because of that, we are all in trouble.

bbarsh wrote:
Good point.

But I am of the opinion that the U.S. does not need to regain the moral high ground in the eyes of the rest of world. I really could care less what some anti-U.S. guy across the ocean thinks about how we deal with prisoners of war.

The minute the U.S. starts adjusting policy to conform with what the rest of the world thinks is the same minute we take the road of failure. Sometimes doing what is right is to risk scorn from others. But that does not make it the wrong thing to do.

This whole torture thing is flat out bullshit anyway. The U.S. is not the freaking Soviet Union of the 50s (or even today). The enemy is the enemy. There is a war going on. And in war bad things happen. Decisions have to be made - many of which are not very popular - but victory is the goal.

It seems it is very easy for those who have never been in the field to criticize those who have. That is the American way. And I am ok with that.  But when my political leaders start changing policy because of that, we are all in trouble.

bbarsh wrote:This whole torture thing is flat out bullshit anyway. The U.S. is not the freaking Soviet Union of the 50s (or even today).

bbarsh wrote:My point is that some times, in war, things must be done that nobody is proud of or wants to do. It is an ugly business. I really can't remember the last time a war was won by world popular opinion.