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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:55 pm 
 

hmm, maybe its a bit extreme to ban them all, but it does stop trading in illegal goods. with so many knife related deaths and injuries occuring, whilst ebays decision wont stop that, at least its doing its bit to maybe stop someone, I believe.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:13 pm 
 

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This is not a free speech issue, per se. You can say whatever you want. But don't be shocked when your words have consequences. People use the internet as a shield, which they think gives them the ability to say whatever they want about anyone. In a way that is true; just because there is difficulty in tracking said speaker down. But if someone is offended enough and the "speech" is clearly beyond the pale, well, don't be shocked when a process server shows up at your front door.


My guess is that for some of the posters, it is a free speech issue and for other posters it isn't.  I would think it all depends on the comment(s).  If someone is stating an opinion (I think these people are stupid), then I'd say it's free speech.  If they are espousing hate speech (using the "n" word) or inflammatory speech (we should all send them hate mail) or state information as fact which is harmful (they eat babies for breakfast), then that crosses the line for me.  Of course, these are just a few examples.

What makes this case interesting is that the posters are, or were, anonymous, and there were so many postings.  If there had just been one post, there never would have been a post unless the poster were very rich.  But because there are so many posters, it's a worthwhile lawsuit because the potential gain is significant.

Anyway, I like free speech, and even though people say stupid things, I prefer to slowly and carefully consider amendments to that right.  I hope the judge doesn't lump all comments in the same suit, but only punishes those who were truly deserving.  I agree that any comment worth making should be with the understanding that there may be consequences.  8)


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:21 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote:hmm, maybe its a bit extreme to ban them all, but it does stop trading in illegal goods. with so many knife related deaths and injuries occuring, whilst ebays decision wont stop that, at least its doing its bit to maybe stop someone, I believe.


Until they pick up a club, rock, baseball (or cricket) bat, non-hunting knife, etc.

I doubt this move will stop anyone hell-bent on killing someone else, but maybe EBay can get on their moral high horse and crow about something...lord knows they have had so few victories (moral or otherwise) lately....

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:45 pm 
 

Knives DONT kill people....

PEOPLE kill People....


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:59 pm 
 

Same with lead minis.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:03 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:03 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote:hmm, maybe its a bit extreme to ban them all, but it does stop trading in illegal goods. with so many knife related deaths and injuries occuring, whilst ebays decision wont stop that, at least its doing its bit to maybe stop someone, I believe.

There are far more people killed by cars each year from illegal drivers than are ever harmed by knives. With that rationale, eBay should ban the sale of motor vehicles and motor vehicle parts. Hopefully that's help cut down on illegal drivers in the UK too.
bombadil wrote:Same with lead minis.

Yep. Big step backwards. Back to the "Ban D&D Devil Worshipping" days of the 70's and 80's. If some guy kills someone, and the press find lead minis in his house, next thing you know eBay will do a blanket ban of FRPs.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:06 pm 
 

I think the solution to that might be as simple as learning to drive on the right side of the road.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:23 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:I think the solution to that might be as simple as learning to drive on the right side of the road.

No. You mean the left.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:28 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:No. You mean the left.


That driving on the left is not very tourist friendly.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:35 pm 
 

Apparently, the Swedes switched over from left to right side driving from one day to the next.  Salvation is indeed possible!


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:42 pm 
 

I saw this over on yog-sothoth and immediately thought of Badmike!  :P

This would make one hell of a high cholesterol summertime bbq treat!!

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:36 pm 
 

Mars wrote:
That driving on the left is not very tourist friendly.

Keeps them awake.
We've got roundabouts too. It's amazing how many American tourists manage to crash their cars on them. I know they've got them in Europe. I don't remember ever seeing one in Florida. Do they have roundabouts in the US or Canada?


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:45 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Keeps them awake.
We've got roundabouts too. It's amazing how many American tourists manage to crash their cars on them. I know they've got them in Europe. I don't remember ever seeing one in Florida. Do they have roundabouts in the US or Canada?


We have small ones in my city.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:48 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Do they have roundabouts in the US or Canada?


In the Waterloo, Ontario area we now have about 6 roundabouts.  They have all been built in the last 5 years.  Before that, I had never come across one in Canada.  They still play havoc with people here who don't know what to do at them and most of them are single lane.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:04 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Keeps them awake.
We've got roundabouts too. It's amazing how many American tourists manage to crash their cars on them. I know they've got them in Europe. I don't remember ever seeing one in Florida. Do they have roundabouts in the US or Canada?


Here in the US we call them "reach-arounds".


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:26 pm 
 

Got them here in Michigan, too. Not very many, but they are more numerous each year.

I am for anything that helps lessen traffic, but it is a learning curve for sure.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:32 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:I saw this over on yog-sothoth and immediately thought of Badmike!  :P

This would make one hell of a high cholesterol summertime bbq treat!!

http://www.bbqaddicts.com/bacon-explosion.html


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