muaddib5 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:dragonsbreath wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:I was the seller on this one and I was very unhappy to part with this one. My personal grading goes from Poor, Acceptable, Good, Very Good, Near Mint, Mint. This is well within the Good range - I've seen many worse ones and this one is a pretty sweet one- I bought it for my personal collection(which is getting smaller by the day), but a $2,000 car repair came at a bad time . I purposefully grade very lightly because it is such a subjective thing- I prefer to lead with pics and details rather than pin a specific grade on something.I don't really follow the pricing on Acaeum when I price most of the rare or mint stuff, since I find it to be incorrect fairly often for these particular items, much to the dismay of most members (I am not saying that what is offered here or the opinions that you guys have are invalid- I just mean I think that some of the pricing is not in tune to the market at this time). I post the auctions with as much information and as many pictures as I can, detailing every aspect that may be important to a collector. Then I set a price I think is fair based on my research and let the bidders decide.You guys really like to argue about things that I just leave in the hands of the bidders- if its too high, then I don't sell it, if its too low, it gets snatched up with the BIN in an hour. The market will tell me what its worth and as someone who prefers to make a profit, I have to trust the bidders will know what they want. I think any argument against pricing, unless its fraud or a scam or so out of line it hits the most ridiculous price thread, is a useless waste of time when you are talking about the free market. Providing information, guidelines and opinions are great, and much needed, but to denigrate sellers or call buyers uninformed is highly irresponsible. Disagree, but then eat crow when the free market proves you wrong I have had hundreds of transactions over the past 3-4 years on ebay, amazon, FB with a lot of buyers, (many with you guys too) and have never had a complaint about what someone has purchased, with the exception of something that was missing from a shrinkwrapped Silver anniversary box set!! You guys wouldn't have even been able to discuss this particular auction in detail if I hadn't been so thorough with my pics and description!I think that this buyer got a great deal on an item that is extremely rare and in good shape, and which I would have preferred to keep myself Some valid points raised here. Grading is subjective, an item is only as valuable as what a buyer will pay for it, The Acaeum's valuations may be "light" in some areas. It will be interesting to see what the 2nd print brown box goes for in November at the Gamehole Con collector's auction. :?
dragonsbreath wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:I was the seller on this one and I was very unhappy to part with this one. My personal grading goes from Poor, Acceptable, Good, Very Good, Near Mint, Mint. This is well within the Good range - I've seen many worse ones and this one is a pretty sweet one- I bought it for my personal collection(which is getting smaller by the day), but a $2,000 car repair came at a bad time . I purposefully grade very lightly because it is such a subjective thing- I prefer to lead with pics and details rather than pin a specific grade on something.I don't really follow the pricing on Acaeum when I price most of the rare or mint stuff, since I find it to be incorrect fairly often for these particular items, much to the dismay of most members (I am not saying that what is offered here or the opinions that you guys have are invalid- I just mean I think that some of the pricing is not in tune to the market at this time). I post the auctions with as much information and as many pictures as I can, detailing every aspect that may be important to a collector. Then I set a price I think is fair based on my research and let the bidders decide.You guys really like to argue about things that I just leave in the hands of the bidders- if its too high, then I don't sell it, if its too low, it gets snatched up with the BIN in an hour. The market will tell me what its worth and as someone who prefers to make a profit, I have to trust the bidders will know what they want. I think any argument against pricing, unless its fraud or a scam or so out of line it hits the most ridiculous price thread, is a useless waste of time when you are talking about the free market. Providing information, guidelines and opinions are great, and much needed, but to denigrate sellers or call buyers uninformed is highly irresponsible. Disagree, but then eat crow when the free market proves you wrong I have had hundreds of transactions over the past 3-4 years on ebay, amazon, FB with a lot of buyers, (many with you guys too) and have never had a complaint about what someone has purchased, with the exception of something that was missing from a shrinkwrapped Silver anniversary box set!! You guys wouldn't have even been able to discuss this particular auction in detail if I hadn't been so thorough with my pics and description!I think that this buyer got a great deal on an item that is extremely rare and in good shape, and which I would have preferred to keep myself
aia wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Sorry but i feel that it is not correct. Grading is more objective than what we discuss: the definitions are pretty complete and a detached cover is a detached cover. What is subjective is the valuation a buyer does. If i really want smtg then i pay far away from the current practiced prices. It happens on ebay, it is what is called here a biddibg war and often the seller is happy to be a victim of such a war. Having said so, if you find two bidders which raises a price out of any reasonable range then the seller should be happy. I do not find polite that any "outlayer" is a good topic to destroy the work which is done here. For the sake of completeness i wss not sarcastic in my previous replies: as i wrote i am happy if a seller finds himself in bidding war, i wish i find myself in one (as a seller) in the future. Ciaoo
dragonsbreath wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:I wish there was a PSA/DNA for RPG stuff 8O I agree that the Acaeum is the gold standard for value/grading, but there is no way to standardize it to a point where personal opinion is removed from the process. If you send a baseball card in to PSA and you get back a 9 - that's objective- you can be unhappy, but a 9 is a 9. When you buy a 9 you know what grade you are getting- personal opinion is removed. The market recognizes that grade. What I feel is light staining may be heavy staining to another, so without that definitive grading standard established its hard to tell someone that they are wrong about their opinion on staining. Good debate- I appreciate the opinions offered up here- makes the hobby fun
ibm_ted wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Agreed . Like you said, it would be incredibly useful (and beneficial) to have a universally recognized grading system for RPGs (akin to the CGC for comic book collectors).
MadCatUSA wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:ibm_ted wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:Agreed . Like you said, it would be incredibly useful (and beneficial) to have a universally recognized grading system for RPGs (akin to the CGC for comic book collectors).What would it take for a group from here to start something like that? I think it would be incredibly helpful.
benjoshua wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:MadCatUSA wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:What would it take for a group from here to start something like that? I think it would be incredibly helpful.The Acaeum has its grading standards available on this web-site:GradingHowever, getting everyone, or even lots of people, to agree to these standards is another issue entirely....
MadCatUSA wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:What would it take for a group from here to start something like that? I think it would be incredibly helpful.
benjoshua wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:However, getting everyone, or even lots of people, to agree to these standards is another issue entirely....
benjoshua wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:benjoshua wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:However, getting everyone, or even lots of people, to agree to these standards is another issue entirely.... I am also someone who does not agree with the Acaeum standards. Personally, I like the comic book standard of grading, and it is also more strict that the Acaeum standard. It is a well-established standard used by reputable professionals. Unfortunately, few reputable professionals sell on eBay or even at many FLGS. Like many others, I have thrown in the towel on strict grading and try to primarily describe things accurately and provide clear pictures.
misterspock wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay: ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction **Some recent Roslof auctioned pieces being placed up for auction again. While I'd be interested in these, the asking price is up there
webrik33 wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay:misterspock wrote in Interesting Items Currently on eBay: ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction ** ** expired/removed eBay auction **Some recent Roslof auctioned pieces being placed up for auction again. While I'd be interested in these, the asking price is up therethis is the same guy that sold the woodgrain set recently that was a topic of discussion
