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Post Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:46 am 
 

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:Can you believe it... my kids have their first snow day of the year, on April 23rd. Bizarre. It's snowed here more in the last 12 hours than it did the entire winter.


I would like to take this opportunity to be both jealous and envious of your children. Living most of my adult years in Arizona, I never got to have the "Glacial Rift" experience. A day off school is a day shared by heaven, hope they enjoy it. :)

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:00 am 
 

I think of it as a Ferris Bueller day.

It's just weird, and took us all by surprise. Sure, they were calling for a little snow last night, but all winter the most we've had is an inch or so, maybe three or four times. For upstate New York, that's extremely unusual to say the least. We bought snowshoes and cross-country skis in November, thinking we were moving to a winter wonderland. Not so much. Now we have like 5 inches on the ground, a month into spring. It's hardly glacial, and it's supposed to get into the mid-forties this afternoon, but it'll be nice while it lasts :).


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:14 pm 
 

Hey it's never bad to have a Ferris Bueller day off. As long as it is only one day.  :mrgreen:


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:07 am 
 

Hi,

if youre on facebook, this is rather scarey:

http://socialcam.com/v/Wi2rA91g?autosta ... tiline#_=_

Theres even a couple of LARPers in there.
Even someone with a tail.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:14 pm 
 

Versimilitude wrote:Hi,

if youre on facebook, this is rather scarey:

http://socialcam.com/v/Wi2rA91g?autosta ... tiline#_=_

Theres even a couple of LARPers in there.
Even someone with a tail.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:43 pm 
 

It's probably the eyedrops you bought at Walmart :).


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:33 pm 
 

If you dont give a damn about European football you can skip this post entirely (which will probably be 99% of you).

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/cham ... nal-042412

I watched the match and I still dont know how in the hell Chelsea managed to beat Barcelona.  Down to 10 men after that idiot Terry got sent off for a stupid foul, losing Cahill to injury and their defense still managed to keep Messi from finding the net in the second half.  Fantastic match....almost as good as the 4-4 draw Everton pulled out against Manchester United on Sunday.  :P

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:24 am 
 

Agree, a bit of a weird and scrappy game.  Chelsea will (I hope) get slaughtered in the final next month :)


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:57 am 
 

All depends on Mourinho tonight.
I really can't see Chelsea winning it, and as a Spurs fan I'd rather they didn't!


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:58 am 
 

red_bus wrote:Chelsea will (I hope) get slaughtered in the final next month :)

gyg wrote:I really can't see Chelsea winning it, and as a Spurs fan I'd rather they didn't!

Interesting....I didnt quite expect those comments.  I figured with Chelsea being the lone English team left in the Champions League competition, people from England would be rooting for them to win the cup instead of one of the often hated Spanish or German clubs.  If I was a Boston Red Sox fan and the New York Yankees were playing the best baseball team in Japan for the World championship I guess a part of me wouldnt want the Yankees to win.  But on the flip side of that, part of me wouldn't want an American team to lose to a team from another country, regardless of the nationality of its players.

I guess the hatred of rival clubs knows no bounds, even in international tournaments.

Think about this though.  All Abramovich wants is a Champions League trophy.  Once he has that he will probably sell off all the aging veteran players to bring in new talent and Chelsea will suck for four or five years.  :roll:

I will probably be rooting for Real Madrid today.  Ribery and Robben are two of the most pathetic divers I've seen so far.  :?


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:50 pm 
 

Yes, as football is a pretty international sport, team affiliations are much more international as well I suppose. You also get plenty of supporters of European teams here in the UK as well.

Plus as there has just been so much more widespread European travel in the last few decades, many people are more interested in supporting European football teams in countries that are not their home nation.  Oh… and LOTS of people hate* Chelsea  :P


* for those very reasons you note.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:47 pm 
 

You guys are making me ill...........soccer...............John, you need to turn in your man card! The UK guys are ok, but an american talking soccer.....oh, no....

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:58 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:You guys are making me ill...........soccer...............John, you need to turn in your man card! The UK guys are ok, but an american talking soccer.....oh, no....

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Meh...whatever.  90% of NFL players couldnt keep up with a soccer player.  They would tire out before halftime.  And the big, strong, tough linebackers would just try and knock them to the ground and pummel them.  Wouldnt be all that hard to do except they would have to catch them first.  And by the time they had their heads pointed in the right direction the soccer player would have drop kicked their balls into their throat.

Sorry dude....I'm a convert.  Sure, NFL games are exciting to watch most of the time.  There are the big hits, the big plays, and the cheerleaders.  But when you get two world class soccer teams playing each other its just no contest for me.  Soccer teams play more than twice as many games.  They play against teams from other leagues and other countries.  And the players play not only for their chosen club but also their country which means even more playing time.  These guys have to be in top physical condition unlike a lot of NFL players.  And if an NFL team goes 0-16 they dont get booted from the NFL and have to play in a lower tier league the next year.  Not to mention, no time-outs.

My "man card" is safe thank you.  :P


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:14 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:You guys are making me ill...........soccer...............John, you need to turn in your man card! The UK guys are ok, but an american talking soccer.....oh, no....

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I'd rather watch nearly anything than soccer.  Anything that ends in a tie just shouldn't be allowed (at least hockey had the good sense to introduce the shoot-out).  I can understand how a 0-0 tie might be riveting to some,  but...ok, sorry, not I can't.  A 0-0 tie? Blech. Waste of an afternoon.

I love how they have been saying since I was a kid (70s) how soccer is going to take the US by storm!  And here we are 40 years later and no one gives a damn...kids playing soccer grow up and then go off to football,  baseball and basketball leagues.  Heck, even the kids are bored.  

A funny story, my stepdaughter has never played sports.  When she was in junior high some friends urged her to try out for the soccer team.  She had never played soccer in her life, and immediately dominated. I mean, like, she would enter the game and score three goals herself without ever passing the ball.  And then her team would win 3-0.  She scored something like 10 goals in a few weeks and they won all the rest of their games that year. She was completely kicking ass on every level against these girls who had been playing in soccer leagues since they were tiny. What a joke. Actually I wish she had stuck with it, might have gotten a scholarship or something, she obviously had some kind of natural talent, or the talent at that level really sucked.  In the end she wasn't interested enough (and her coach was an absolutely clueless tool, I wanted to beat the shit out of him a few times when I was watching games) to keep playing past one year in junior high.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:57 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:I'd rather watch nearly anything than soccer.  Anything that ends in a tie just shouldn't be allowed (at least hockey had the good sense to introduce the shoot-out).  I can understand how a 0-0 tie might be riveting to some,  but...ok, sorry, not I can't.  A 0-0 tie? Blech. Waste of an afternoon.

Not all games end in a tie.  Just finished watching the end of the Real Madrid/Bayern Munich game to decide who faces Chelsea in the Champions League finals.  It ended up 2-1 Madrid, but because Munich had a 1-0 lead on them from the first match, it ended up tied 3-3.  After a couple of gut-wrenching saves from the Munich goalkeeper, and a couple of easy saves by the Madrid goalkeeper, Munich ended up winning the match.

Badmike wrote:I love how they have been saying since I was a kid (70s) how soccer is going to take the US by storm!  And here we are 40 years later and no one gives a damn...kids playing soccer grow up and then go off to football,  baseball and basketball leagues.  Heck, even the kids are bored.

Actually, you are incorrect.  Soccer has become quite a bit more popular in the U.S. since the 70's.  Most U.S. universities have collegiate soccer teams now....men and womens.  It may not be as popular as baseball or football but that is because the money isnt there.  Most professional soccer players in the U.S. dont make the ridiculous salaries that we pay our MLB and NFL players.  And unsurprisingly, attendance for MLS games has skyrocketed since the 2010 World Cup, particularly due to the U.S. national team's relative success there.  More American players are making names for themselves in Europe and especially the English Premier League.  Most notable is Clint Dempsey who just finished fourth in the 2012 Football Writers' Association Player of the Year award for his play at Fulham.  He also set a Fulham record for number of goals in a season.

Oh and just walk into a pub nowadays on match day in Dallas and its is packed full of soccer enthusiasts drinking and watching the game.

And heres an article with a lot of informative links of just how popular soccer has become in the U.S. in recent years:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-gri ... 43011.html

Oh and I probably shouldnt fail to mention David Beckham as a catalyst of soccer popularity here.  While not as great as he was with Manchester United, he is still amazing to watch.  Same with Thierry Henry.  Having these guys around the MLS players can only make them better.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:46 pm 
 

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bbarsh wrote:You guys are making me ill...........soccer...............John, you need to turn in your man card! The UK guys are ok, but an american talking soccer.....oh, no....

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Meh...whatever.  90% of NFL players couldnt keep up with a soccer player.  They would tire out before halftime.    :P


I don't think they would last that long. I am not saying soccer players are not athletes. They are. World Class. I am just saying that my American Redneckism is alive and well. Hell, someone had to say it!

However, as much as it pains me to admit this, soccer is dominating most youth sports programs. I coach youth football and baseball and I can tell you there are way more soccer players out there than the latter. More and more parents are shifting their kids into soccer rather than football. When my son was six, he signed up for football (real football with hitting). He was just out of kindergarten and two of his friends did the same. Techinically, they were not supposed to play until end of first grade, but it slid by. Point is they could not wait to play. That level is called "instrucitonal" and we had three teams of 28 kids each! That was eight years ago. Now we can barely get 20 kids total. It is not that kids don't want to play. Parents don't want them to play. I hear this all the time. Nobody likes seeing their kid get hit and come off the field crying and hurt (not injured, but hurt). I have lived it for eight years. It never gets easy to see my kid, or any of my players, get hit and get hurt (again, not talking injuries). But when that player shakes it off and begs to get right back in, well, that is magic. Not all kids can do that. Many only play a year or two. But many come back year after year. Those boys are brothers and they have more character than any other athlete I have ever seen. Sure, all sports build character. But there is just something different about a football player.
By the way, those three boys completed eight years of youth football last fall. That is rarified air. They are the only three still playing out of all three of those instructional teams. At the team banquet we brought them up and played a short, two-minute photo collage of them from when they were six until the present. There wasn't a dry eye in the house (Coach Barsh included). That is football. I have been to, and a part of, baseball, basketball, cross country, etc., banquets and nothing has ever come close to that night.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:11 pm 
 

I'd rather watch paint dry than either football or soccer. Just saying. And as far as the youth angle, involving your child in either is asking for brain injuries. I'm all for physical fitness among the yutes, but swimming, track, and martial arts (heh, no real contact) is where it's at.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:20 pm 
 

MetamorphosisSigma wrote:I'd rather watch paint dry than either football or soccer. Just saying. And as far as the youth angle, involving your child in either is asking for brain injuries. I'm all for physical fitness among the yutes, but swimming, track, and martial arts (heh, no real contact) is where it's at.


Swimming seems to do the least damage. Full contact sports do the most. Boxing probably the very most. Football ((and I don't mean soccer) is probably the next most damaging sport.


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